{"id":598131,"date":"2021-07-20T15:20:13","date_gmt":"2021-07-20T19:20:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/?p=598131"},"modified":"2021-07-20T15:20:15","modified_gmt":"2021-07-20T19:20:15","slug":"the-facts-are-torture-attorney-for-capitol-rioter-derails-his-own-cnn-interview","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/the-facts-are-torture-attorney-for-capitol-rioter-derails-his-own-cnn-interview\/","title":{"rendered":"\u2018The Facts Are Torture\u2019: Attorney For Capitol Rioter Derails His Own CNN Interview"},"content":{"rendered":"<aside class=\"mashsb-container mashsb-main mashsb-stretched\"><div class=\"mashsb-box\"><div class=\"mashsb-count mash-medium\" style=\"&quot;\"><div class=\"counts mashsbcount\">26<\/div><span class=\"mashsb-sharetext\">SHARES<\/span><\/div><div class=\"mashsb-buttons\"><a class=\"mashicon-facebook mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.conservativenewsdaily.net%2Fbreaking-news%2Fthe-facts-are-torture-attorney-for-capitol-rioter-derails-his-own-cnn-interview%2F\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Facebook<\/span><\/a><a class=\"mashicon-twitter mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/intent\/tweet?text=&amp;url=https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/?p=598131&amp;via=ConservNewsDly\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Twitter<\/span><\/a><a class=\"mashicon-subscribe mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"#\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Subscribe<\/span><\/a><div class=\"onoffswitch2 mash-medium mashsb-noshadow\" style=\"display:none\"><\/div><\/div>\n            <\/div>\n                <div style=\"clear:both\"><\/div><\/aside>\n            <!-- Share buttons by mashshare.net - Version: 4.0.47--><div><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cndimages.nyc3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com\/breaking-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/Screen-Shot-2021-07-20-at-1.26.27-PM-e1626807972262.jpg\" class=\"ff-og-image-inserted\" \/><\/div>\n<p>Attorney Joseph McBride appeared to derail his own CNN interview during Tuesday morning\u2019s broadcast of \u201cNew Day.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>McBride joined guest host John Avlon to discuss the eight-month sentence that was just handed down for convicted Capitol <a href=\"https:\/\/dailycaller.com\/2021\/07\/16\/heather-shaner-us-capitol-anna-morgan-llyod\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">rioter<\/a> Paul Hodgkins and what that could mean for his client, Richard Barnett, who was famously photographed sitting behind Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi\u2019s desk.<strong> <a class=\"text-black\" href=\"https:\/\/dailycaller.com\/2021\/07\/19\/capitol-riot-paul-allard-hodgkins-sentence-felony-donald-trump\/\">(RELATED: Capitol Rioter Gets Prison Time In First Felony Sentence)<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>WATCH:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Avlon noted that Hodgkins\u2019 plea agreement included the acknowledgement that President Joe Biden was, in fact, the president of the United States \u2014 and he asked whether Barnett was prepared to issue a similar statement.<\/p>\n<p>McBride declined to speak for his client on that point, saying that his client\u2019s actions were covered under the First Amendment.<\/p>\n<p>Avlon pushed back, asking whether he was saying that the First Amendment protected a citizen\u2019s right to attack the Capitol.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cNo, I\u2019m saying that there are people who showed up to attack the Capitol, there are people who showed up to protest, and there are people who showed up to protest that got involved with the greater events of that day. And it is very important not to lump everybody in, not to define every protester that showed up that day as an insurrectionist \u2014 which, by the way, no one has been charged with,\u201d McBride said.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think showing up to protest and winding up in the Speaker\u2019s office seems to be a different standard,\u201d Avlon objected. \u201cYou don\u2019t enter the Speaker\u2019s office as part of a violent mob, and just sort of end up there willy nilly. I think there\u2019s a clear difference on that point.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Avlon then pointed to an <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/pulse\/american-citizens-being-tortured-right-now-within-me-mcbride-esq-\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">essay<\/a> McBride had written, comparing the treatment and&nbsp;conditions facing <a href=\"https:\/\/dailycaller.com\/2021\/07\/16\/joyce-beatty-capitol-riot-arrests-martin-luther-king\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">rioters<\/a> who were being held pending trial to those faced by prisoners in the gulags or in Nazi Germany.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cLook, Nazi comparisons are usually a sign you have lost the argument, but do you believe the federal government is acting like Nazi Germany in the prosecution of the Capitol attackers?\u201d Avlon asked.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cLook, let\u2019s leave Nazis out of this conversation,\u201d McBride protested.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou brought them into it,\u201d Avlon pointed out.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cFair enough,\u201d McBride conceded, adding, \u201cLike the Nazis, and the Soviets, innocent men and women are being held in D.C. Guantanamo Bay, pretrial, absent any finding of fact. They\u2019re being held for hundreds of days in solitary confinement, they\u2019re being beaten, starved, denied medical care, denied the right to worship, they\u2019re being cut off from their attorneys \u2014\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Avlon pushed back, asking whether McBride had been denied the ability to communicate with his client \u2014 at which point McBride conceded that he had been able to secure Barnett\u2019s release, pending trial.<\/p>\n<p>Avlon argued there was no real indication that the Biden administration was acting like either the Nazi or the Soviet regime, adding, \u201cDo you think if an attacker broke into the Kremlin and sat at Vladimir Putin\u2019s desk he\u2019d be treated better or worse than your client\u2019s been treated after attacking the Speaker of the House\u2019s office?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIf the media and the United States government does not want to hold itself accountable for the human rights violations that are taking place at D.C. Guantanamo Bay, then who better to hold us accountable than the inventors of the gulag themselves?\u201d McBride asked.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThat makes absolutely no sense,\u201d Avlon responded, but McBride immediately pivoted to claim again that <a href=\"https:\/\/dailycaller.com\/2021\/07\/14\/capitol-building-capitol-riot-dc-district-court-fbi\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">rioters<\/a> were being tortured.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cPeople are being tortured. Tortured! Are you OK with people being tortured five miles from the White House?\u201d he asked.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou\u2019re saying people are being tortured by the White House?\u201d Avlon asked. \u201cI just want to be clear because that\u2019s an extraordinary statement that would seem to be utterly un-based in fact.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>McBride said that he was basing his claims in fact, but gave no evidence on-air. He continued to argue that rioters were being tortured, prompting Avlon to call for an end to the interview.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cTorture is never OK! TORTURE! TORTURE! TORTURE! TORTURE! TORTURE!\u201d McBride yelled as Avlon wrapped the segment.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cKeep yelling torture. We\u2019ll stick with the facts,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe facts are torture!\u201d McBride insisted as the cameras cut him off.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Attorney Joseph McBride appeared to derail his own CNN interview during Tuesday morning\u2019s broadcast of \u201cNew Day.\u201dMcBride joined guest host John Avlon to discuss the eight-month sentence that was just &#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":2315279,"comment_status":"close","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_mo_disable_npp":"","fifu_image_url":"","fifu_image_alt":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-598131","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/598131","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=598131"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/598131\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/2315279"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=598131"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=598131"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=598131"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}