{"id":596292,"date":"2021-07-18T18:06:07","date_gmt":"2021-07-18T22:06:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/?p=596292"},"modified":"2021-07-18T18:06:11","modified_gmt":"2021-07-18T22:06:11","slug":"wolff-torches-stelter-you-dont-report-whats-real-your-fault-people-hate-media","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wolff-torches-stelter-you-dont-report-whats-real-your-fault-people-hate-media\/","title":{"rendered":"Wolff Torches Stelter: You Don\u2019t Report \u2018What\u2019s Real,\u2019 \u2018Your Fault\u2019 People Hate Media"},"content":{"rendered":"<aside class=\"mashsb-container mashsb-main mashsb-stretched\"><div class=\"mashsb-box\"><div class=\"mashsb-count mash-medium\" style=\"&quot;\"><div class=\"counts mashsbcount\">26<\/div><span class=\"mashsb-sharetext\">SHARES<\/span><\/div><div class=\"mashsb-buttons\"><a class=\"mashicon-facebook mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.conservativenewsdaily.net%2Fbreaking-news%2Fwolff-torches-stelter-you-dont-report-whats-real-your-fault-people-hate-media%2F\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Facebook<\/span><\/a><a class=\"mashicon-twitter mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/intent\/tweet?text=&amp;url=https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/?p=596292&amp;via=ConservNewsDly\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Twitter<\/span><\/a><a class=\"mashicon-subscribe mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"#\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Subscribe<\/span><\/a><div class=\"onoffswitch2 mash-medium mashsb-noshadow\" style=\"display:none\"><\/div><\/div>\n            <\/div>\n                <div style=\"clear:both\"><\/div><\/aside>\n            <!-- Share buttons by mashshare.net - Version: 4.0.47--><div><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/Stelter-Wolff.jpg?w=1200&amp;h=800&amp;ixlib=react-9.0.3\" class=\"ff-og-image-inserted\" \/><\/div>\n<p>Author Michael Wolff slammed CNN host Brian Stelter on live air during Sunday\u2019s broadcast of \u201cReliable Sources,\u201d telling Stelter that he was a major part of the problem in the news media.<\/p>\n<p>The segment was supposed to be about a new Trump book from Wolff but it quickly developed into a combative interview with Wolff repeatedly appearing to get the upper hand during arguments.<\/p>\n<p>The first combative exchange happened early during the interview when Stelter appeared to take the side of Fox News in their statement about parts of Wolff\u2019s book not being accurate. Wolff quickly pointed out&nbsp; how Stelter\u2019s show is largely dedicated to attacking Fox News and their credibility.<\/p>\n<p>A few minutes later in the interview, Stelter suggested that the way that Wolff got access to the Trump White House was he came on CNN and bashed the network, which got Trump\u2019s attention.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBut maybe that\u2019s how it works sometimes, huh?\u201d Stelter asked. \u201cIs that how it works? That\u2019s how you got access?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think the media has done a terrible job on this, I think you yourself, um, you know, while you\u2019re a nice guy, you know, you\u2019re full of sanctimony,\u201d Wolff responded. \u201cUm, you know, you become part of, one of the parts of the problem of the media. You know, you come on here, and you have a um, um, ugh, you know, a monopoly on truth, you know, you know exactly how things are supposed to be done. You know, you are why one of the reasons people can\u2019t stand the media, I\u2019m sorry.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou\u2019re cracking me up,\u201d Stelter remarked.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s your fault,\u201d Wolff responded. \u201cYou know, don\u2019t talk so much, listen more. You know, people have genuine problems with the media, the media doesn\u2019t get the story right. The media exists in its own bubble.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAlso, you\u2019re incredibly repetitive. It\u2019s week after week,\u201d Wolff continued. \u201cI mean, you\u2019re the flip side of Donald Trump. You know, fake news and you say virtuous news.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cNo, we\u2019re just figuring out what is real,\u201d Stelter claimed.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWell, figuring out what is real is not so easy and you know most people don\u2019t want turn to Brian Stelter to tell us what\u2019s real, I\u2019m sorry,\u201d Wolff responded.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWell, then why did you bother coming on CNN a few times this week?\u201d Stelter asked.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou know, I\u2019m a book salesman,\u201d Wolff responded.<\/p>\n<div id>\n<p><em>BRIAN STELTER, CNN HOST: It is one of many, a bevy of Trump related books out right now. It has some of the most shocking details. So let\u2019s bring in Michael Wolff for a conversation about what he learned about his trilogy of books involving the former president. Michael, I think you had to move up your publishing date, because other Trump books were coming out this month also. Was this sort of a gamesmanship thing where the publisher was trying to get yours out ahead of all your competitors?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>MICHAEL WOLFF, AUTHOR: You know, I\u2019m not exactly sure the mechanics of the publishing business, they always seem opaque to me, but I think we were first and somebody else was first then there was a leap frogging and the end result is that we all came out on the same day, but the more the merrier, I say.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>STELTER: The more the merrier. You report about Trump\u2019s relationship with Fox News, and Fox News has come out and denied some of what you said. For example, you say Rupert Murdoch was involved in the election night decision to call Arizona for Biden. Now I\u2019ve never heard such a thing, Fox denies that\u2019s true. And your response was basically when we tweeted about it with each other, we kind of got into it on Twitter, you said, well, they\u2019re liars, Fox is a bunch of liars. That\u2019s your response. So here\u2019s my question for you, if Rupert Murdoch hates Trump so much\u2014<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>MICHAEL WOLFF, AUTHOR: But, it is an interesting thing that week after week all you do is question Fox, question its veracity, question its honor question, etc, etc. But suddenly now you think that they might be\u2013<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>STELTER: Well, I\u2019ve never questioned the decision desk. I\u2019ve never questioned the decision desk, the professionals who made the call.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>WOLFF: \u2013but even, let\u2019s get go, let\u2019s go back. Yeah, let\u2019s go, let\u2019s go back to that \u2026 the issue that began this, which is that I told the story of election night, them making the call about Arizona and then Bill Hemmer, before they made the call, the on air call, him calling the Trump election headquarters and telling them that they were going to make this call. Okay.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>STELTER: And Fox denied that.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>WOLFF: They denied this, and then you jumped in and said, you know, you had a headline that they denied this then, and the person they had called, was Jason Miller. And then I had suggested that somebody should call Jason Miller. You didn\u2019t, but then The Washington Post did and Jason Miller said yes, it\u2019s totally true and others heard this.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>STELTER: [Inaudible].<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>WOLFF: Then, just to point out, I said to you, well hey, you should probably acknowledge that and you wrote a thing but you buried that. So, you know, what can I say? This is the world we seem to be in. You want this to be true, and\u2013<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>STELTER: What do I want to be true?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>WOLFF: \u2013and I\u2019m pointing out it\u2019s not true. You seem to want it to be true.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>STELTER: Well, it\u2019s this issue of Rupert Morduch making the decision. That\u2019s what\u2019s so shocking. If that\u2019s true, that is such an egregious abuse of power by Fox News, that\u2019s on the top-10 list for history. You know what I mean? If Bill Hemmer is calling the White House ahead of time? That\u2019s an egregious ethical lapse.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>WOLFF: Brian, Brian, give me a chance to talk. I\u2019m the guest here. At any rate, the Rupert Murdoch thing is, is, I reported at that point, the decision desk got in touch with Lachlan Murdoch, Lachlan Murdoch called his father, his father said, you know, to go with this report, obviously including quite a fetching obscenity\u2019s directed at Trump. Now\u2013<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>STELTER: So, something like \u2018screw\u2019em\u2019 but even stronger?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>WOLFF: Yes.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>STELTER: So, if Rupert said \u2018screw\u2019em\u2019 then\u2013<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>WOLFF: \u2013and how do I know this? How do I know this? I know this, just let me point out how I, I\u2019ll give you the background here. I mean is that I am Rupert Murdoch\u2019s biographer, I have certainly spent more time\u2013<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>STELTER: One of many.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>WOLFF: No, not one of many. That\u2019s totally ridiculous, I am the singular biographer the singular biographer who was given\u2013<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>STELTER: There\u2019s lots of Rupert books\u2013<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>WOLFF: \u2013enormous access to him, I am well sourced throughout the company and throughout his family. So, therefore, I know that this happened. My sources are extraordinarily good and without a doubt on this point.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>STELTER: Here\u2019s what I wonder, you know, there are a lot of sources that say Rupert despises Trump, so why is Fox still so attached to him? Why do you think he hasn\u2019t changed Fox\u2019s editorial strategy? If anything, they\u2019ve tripled down on Trump.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>WOLFF: You know, because I think that there are two worlds going on here. There\u2019s Rupert Murdoch\u2019s world, which is all powerful, but it\u2019s actually not quite all powerful because you have the Fox network has moved its business model, or the Fox News network, to an all Trump model. That\u2019s where the money comes from, would Rupert Murdoch have an alternative to that that would supply that much money? Rupert hates Donald Trump, hates him. But Rupert loves money, those are two warring things.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>STELTER: It\u2019s that simple, Michael? That\u2019s so sad.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>WOLFF: Yeah, this has created enormous tension in the Murdoch family, people in the Murdoch family don\u2019t speak to each other partly over the issue of Fox News and Donald Trump. One of the reasons that Murdoch sold most of the assets on his company is that his children could not come to any kind of agreement about who would ultimately run the company, partly because of this tension over Fox News.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>STELTER: Yeah, this Fox and Trump problem. You\u2019ve written now a trilogy of Trump books and my take away after reading all of them is, he\u2019s incompetent, he\u2019s ignorant, but he\u2019s not a dictator, he\u2019s not an authoritarian. Is that the right summary? That it\u2019s really more farce than it is threat to democracy? Is that your takeaway?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>WOLFF: Well, certainly my thesis is, there is no plan here, there is no strategy, and in some sense, it might be worse than we have ever thought because we just don\u2019t even know how to think about this. That a crazy has managed to become the president of the United States. And, you know, you have this twisted psyche and this through the looking glass dysfunction in the White House and I think to date, no one really has been able to make sense of this to understand what this means for the future for democracy, for the media itself, because how do you, how do you in the media who are earnest to a fault, attentive to the workings of cause and effect, how do you write about someone who is, who has no idea what cause and effect is? Who doesn\u2019t care? Who exists only in the moment.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>STELTER: So, you\u2019re suggesting he broke us, Michael?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>WOLFF: It may well be.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>STELTER: He broke the normal system of reporting? All the norms of, you know, how we think about politics, he broke them? He broke how we cover politics.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>WOLFF: I think we would have to agree on that. Yes.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>STELTER: Can I ask you about something four years ago, last time you were on the show? I think I know what you did. You came on Reliable Sources, this is like three weeks into the Trump presidency and Trump was brand new. And, you know, people were saying that, that he hated the media and the media hated him. And you came on, you called me ridiculous. And you bashed the media. And then the next day, Trump called you and you guys chatted for half an hour. And you were all friendly. And he said, \u2018Come on, visit the White House, come hang out with me in the White House.\u2019 Is that how you got in access? By coming on CNN and making fun of us? I\u2019m just curious.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>WOLFF: No, I mean, my agreement to go into the White House predated.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>STELTER: Oh, but Trump did call you the next day and put it to you\u2013<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>WOLFF: He did, he did, and that\u2019s what Trump does, he has spent most of his administration seeing people on television and immediately calling them.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>STELTER: But maybe that\u2019s how it works sometimes,&nbsp;huh? Is that how it works? That\u2019s how you got access?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>WOLFF: Yeah, but I don\u2019t want you to think that, that what I said at that point was in any way inauthentic. I think the media has done a terrible job on this, I think you yourself, um, you know, while you\u2019re a nice guy, you know, you\u2019re full of sanctimony. Um, you know, you become part of, one of the parts of the problem of the media. You know, you come on here, and you have a um, um, ugh, you know, a monopoly on truth, you know, you know exactly how things are supposed to be done. You know, you are why one of the reasons people can\u2019t stand the media, I\u2019m sorry.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>STELTER: You\u2019re cracking me up.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>WOLFF: It\u2019s your fault.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>STELTER: It\u2019s my, how, so, what should I do differently, Michael?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>WOLFF: You know, don\u2019t talk so much, listen more. You know, people have genuine problems with the media, the media doesn\u2019t get the story, right. The media exists in its own bubble.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>STELTER: That\u2019s true. I agree.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>WOLFF: You, you know, you got to stop me in that last segment that I just had to listen to, of all the people saying the same old stuff. Also, you\u2019re incredibly repetitive. It\u2019s week after week. I mean, you\u2019re the flip side of Donald Trump. You know, fake news and you say virtuous news.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>STELTER: No, we\u2019re just figuring out what is real.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>WOLFF: Well, figuring out what is real is not so easy and you know most people don\u2019t want turn to Brian Stelter to tell us what\u2019s real, I\u2019m sorry.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>STELTER: Well, then why did you bother coming on CNN a few times this week?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>WOLFF: You know, I\u2019m a book salesman.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>STELTER: Michael, I love talking to you, I\u2019m grateful you came on. And, I guess let\u2019s do it again in four years.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>WOLFF: See, ya.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><i><span>The Daily Wire is one of America\u2019s fastest-growing conservative media companies and counter-cultural outlets for news, opinion, and entertainment. 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