{"id":585050,"date":"2021-07-07T11:51:18","date_gmt":"2021-07-07T15:51:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/?p=585050"},"modified":"2021-07-07T11:51:20","modified_gmt":"2021-07-07T15:51:20","slug":"its-a-radical-philosophy-rooted-in-marxism-chris-rufo-returns-to-msnbc-for-debate-on-crt","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/its-a-radical-philosophy-rooted-in-marxism-chris-rufo-returns-to-msnbc-for-debate-on-crt\/","title":{"rendered":"\u2018It\u2019s A Radical Philosophy Rooted In Marxism!\u2019: Chris Rufo Returns To MSNBC For Debate On CRT"},"content":{"rendered":"<aside class=\"mashsb-container mashsb-main mashsb-stretched\"><div class=\"mashsb-box\"><div class=\"mashsb-count mash-medium\" style=\"&quot;\"><div class=\"counts mashsbcount\">32<\/div><span class=\"mashsb-sharetext\">SHARES<\/span><\/div><div class=\"mashsb-buttons\"><a class=\"mashicon-facebook mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.conservativenewsdaily.net%2Fbreaking-news%2Fits-a-radical-philosophy-rooted-in-marxism-chris-rufo-returns-to-msnbc-for-debate-on-crt%2F\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Facebook<\/span><\/a><a class=\"mashicon-twitter mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/intent\/tweet?text=&amp;url=https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/?p=585050&amp;via=ConservNewsDly\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Twitter<\/span><\/a><a class=\"mashicon-subscribe mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"#\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Subscribe<\/span><\/a><div class=\"onoffswitch2 mash-medium mashsb-noshadow\" style=\"display:none\"><\/div><\/div>\n            <\/div>\n                <div style=\"clear:both\"><\/div><\/aside>\n            <!-- Share buttons by mashshare.net - Version: 4.0.47--><div><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/GettyImages-2758614.jpg?w=1200&amp;h=800&amp;ixlib=react-9.0.3\" class=\"ff-og-image-inserted\" \/><\/div>\n<p>Nearly two weeks after MSNBC invited Christopher Rufo for an interview about Critical Race Theory only to continually badger and interrupt him, the network\u2019s \u201cMorning Joe\u201d hosted Rufo for an honest and intelligent debate on Tuesday \u2014 and&nbsp;Rufo made the most of the opportunity.<\/p>\n<p>Joe Scarborough moderated an engaging discussion between Rufo, a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.manhattan-institute.org\/expert\/christopher-f-rufo\">senior fellow<\/a> at the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.manhattan-institute.org\/\">Manhattan Institute<\/a>, and Eddie Glaude Jr., a professor of <a href=\"https:\/\/aas.princeton.edu\/people\/eddie-s-glaude-jr\">African American Studies<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/religion.princeton.edu\/people\/faculty\/associated-faculty\/eddie-glaude\/\">Religion<\/a> at Princeton University.<\/p>\n<p>The debate took place days after the National Education Association <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dailywire.com\/news\/nations-largest-teachers-union-says-it-will-teach-critical-race-theory-in-all-50-states-1400-school-districts\">pledged<\/a> to teach CRT nationwide during their annual convention. As the Daily Wire\u2019s Chrissy Clark reported, the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nea.org\/about-nea\">3 million-member<\/a> teachers union promised to inject the controversial and divisive theory into the curricula of \u201call 50 states and across the more than 14,000 school districts,\u201d <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dailywire.com\/news\/national-education-association-vows-to-investigate-groups-opposed-to-critical-race-theory-being-taught-in-schools\">as well as<\/a> to \u201cresearch the organizations attacking educators doing anti-racist work.\u201d The union subsequently <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dailywire.com\/news\/nations-largest-teachers-union-scrubs-website-of-pledge-to-teach-critical-race-theory\">scrubbed<\/a> the reference from its website.<\/p>\n<p>The NEA\u2019s endorsement effectively blew up one of the leading ways the media have tried to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dailywire.com\/news\/here-are-5-ways-the-media-is-trying-to-mislead-you-on-critical-race-theory\">mislead the American people about CRT<\/a>: They have alternately claimed that Rufo invented Critical Race Theory, or that CRT is not taught in public schools and remains confined to law schools.<\/p>\n<p>The \u201ccharacterization that Christopher started the conflict over Critical Race Theory \u2014 that\u2019s like Dr. Evil\u2019s father claiming to invent the question mark,\u201d said host Joe Scarborough. \u201cI\u2019m doubtful.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>He then let Rufo explain his views at length and without interruption.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cCritical Race Theory, in simple terms, is an academic discipline that holds that the United States was founded on racism, white supremacy, and patriarchy, and that those forces are still at the root of our society today. Critically, Critical Race Theory reformulates the old Marxist dichotomy of oppressor and oppressed, but it replaces the class categories of <em>proletariat<\/em> and <em>bourgeoisie<\/em> with the racial categories of white and black,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou can teach about slavery, discrimination, and racism, without using Critical Race Theory,\u201d said Rufo, dispelling another Democratic talking point in the process. Rufo then clarified that the agenda of CRT goes far beyond teaching about historical oppression, which U.S. public school teachers have incorporated into their lesson plans for generations.<\/p>\n<p>As Rufo has documented, Critical Race theorists \u201ccall into question the 14th Amendment, equal protection under the law. They call into question the First Amendment right to free speech. They oppose capitalism and believe that a system of collectivism must be implemented in order to improve society.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s not a benign philosophy about teaching racism,\u201d Rufo said. \u201cIt\u2019s a radical philosophy that is rooted in Marxism and is frankly inappropriate as a pedagogical framework for teaching children.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Glaude, in turn, attempted to impugn Rufo\u2019s motives and besmirch the character of those who find CRT unworthy of study.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou\u2019ve already stated very explicitly that this is not about Critical Race Theory. This is about branding,\u201d Glaude said.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cNope,\u201d replied Rufo.<\/p>\n<p>Glaude then cited his feelings as a reason to shut down the nation\u2019s parent-driven debate about CRT.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019m scooting up in my chair, Joe, because I\u2019m getting upset,\u201d he said. \u201cBecause we\u2019re seeing right now, in real time, a reassertion of the lie \u2014 the very thing that keeps us from becoming a different America, because we don\u2019t want to accept who we are [and] what we\u2019ve done.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Refusing to engage the substance of Rufo\u2019s arguments, Glaude instead beseeched MSNBC viewers to question CRT opponents\u2019 motives and compare them to seditionists.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhat we need to be asking is <em>why <\/em>are they doing this at this point, why are they making these arguments at this moment,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI want us to link it to January 6. I want us to link it to the attack on voting rights,\u201d Glaude continued. \u201cThis is, in effect, in my view, Joe, an attempt to arrest substantive change in the country.\u201d&nbsp;The Left needs to refuse to \u201cgive these folks the credit that they\u2019re making the arguments in good faith. \u2026 I don\u2019t think this is a good faith argument, period.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Rufo said that he did not deny the historical reality of American racism but merely disagreed with CRT as a useful critical apparatus, especially for children. When he cited a book <a href=\"https:\/\/freebeacon.com\/campus\/pennsylvania-district-mandates-white-supremacy-lessons-for-kindergartners\/\">taught in public schools<\/a> to fourth graders which anthropomorphizes whiteness as the devil, Glaude noticeably <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/stillgray\/status\/1412501442082922496\">rolled his eyes<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\" readability=\"6.2955665024631\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">MSNBC\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/esglaude?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@esglaude<\/a> rolls his eyes when <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/realchrisrufo?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@realchrisrufo<\/a> describes one of the far-left books being used in Chicago kindergarten classes <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/7d71etYAcC\">pic.twitter.com\/7d71etYAcC<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/tomselliott\/status\/1412406549499240460?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">July 6, 2021<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>The argument spilled out onto Twitter after the show, as Rufo posted photos of the book Not My Idea: A Book About Whiteness, which verified his description:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\" readability=\"6.9450549450549\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">I find what you\u2019re doing to be insidious.<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Eddie S. Glaude Jr. (@esglaude) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/esglaude\/status\/1412414927592165376?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">July 6, 2021<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Glaude again replied by citing his feelings, <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/esglaude\/status\/1412414927592165376\">tweeting<\/a>, \u201cI find what you\u2019re doing to be insidious.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cDo you think that public schools should be teaching kindergartners that \u2018whiteness\u2019 is the devil and lures them with \u2018stolen land [and] stolen riches\u2019?\u201d <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/realchrisrufo\/status\/1412415822933413905\">asked<\/a> Rufo. \u201cTo me, that seems insidious, but you are free to disagree.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The two already agreed to meet again on \u201cMorning Joe\u201d at an as-yet undisclosed day next week. Scarborough promised to be \u201cmore specific\u201d \u2014 and will likely be far more critical of Rufo \u2014 in future exchanges.<\/p>\n<p>Joe Scarborough deserves tremendous praise for conducting a thoughtful, respectful, fair, and substantive debate on a fiercely partisan network.<\/p>\n<p>His treatment marked a significant departure from the treatment meted out to Rufo during Joy Reid\u2019s monologue-posing-as-an-interview on the June 23 episode of \u201cThe ReidOut.\u201d Reid interrupted Rufo <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dailywire.com\/news\/a-petulant-and-childish-outburst-msnbcs-joy-reid-goes-on-tirade-against-anti-crt-guest\">27 times in 13 minutes<\/a>. MSNBC later posted the farce on YouTube under the title \u201cJoy Reid Schools Critical Race Theory Critic On Legal Scholarship.\u201d Days later, Reid <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dailywire.com\/news\/msnbc-host-accuses-josh-hawley-of-misquoting-ibram-x-kendi-it-was-a-real-quote\">misstated numerous facts<\/a> about CRT in an interview with author Ibram X. Kendi, which she replayed on Monday.<\/p>\n<p>Scarborough revealed that numerous acquaintances \u2014 including \u201cliberal members of the mainstream media, Democrats that are huge contributors to the Democratic Party, and even people that work for Democrats\u201d have privately voiced their concerns about CRT in public schools. \u201cI\u2019ve heard over the past three or four years, \u2018I\u2019ve got to get my kid out of this private school. They\u2019re teaching my 7-year-old boy that because he\u2019s white he\u2019s, you know, a racist, he\u2019s part of the problem.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou have to wake up: This is not just conservatives and Republicans,\u201d Rufo told Glaude. \u201cIn fact, the greatest opponents are center-left liberals \u2026 and also racial minorities.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Rufo said the problem is that the Left has overreached. \u201cThey\u2019ve taken on all of the most radical, hard-Left ideologies. Now they\u2019re institutionalizing them, promoting them in all 50 states.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou can\u2019t retreat, because parents know what they\u2019re seeing every day,\u201d Rufo told Glaude. \u201cThey\u2019re rightly and very strongly pushing back.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>You can watch the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=_CwGy392gFE\">debate<\/a>, divided into <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=XBnCr3dOYQE\">two<\/a> segments, below:<\/p>\n<p>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Writer Discusses Why He Opposes Critical Race Theory | MSNBC\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/_CwGy392gFE?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Eddie Glaude: We Must Confront The Ugliness Of Who We Are | MSNBC\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/XBnCr3dOYQE?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/p>\n<p><em>The views expressed in this piece are the author\u2019s own and do not necessarily represent those of The Daily Wire<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><em>The Daily Wire is one of America\u2019s fastest-growing conservative media companies and counter-cultural outlets for news, opinion, and entertainment. Get inside access to The Daily Wire by becoming a&nbsp;<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dailywire.com\/subscribe\"><em>member<\/em><\/a><em>.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Nearly two weeks after MSNBC invited Christopher Rufo for an interview about Critical Race Theory only to continually badger and interrupt him, the network\u2019s \u201cMorning Joe\u201d hosted Rufo for an &#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":2314157,"comment_status":"close","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_mo_disable_npp":"","fifu_image_url":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/GettyImages-2758614.jpg?w=1200&h=800&ixlib=react-9.0.3","fifu_image_alt":"\u2018It\u2019s A Radical Philosophy Rooted In Marxism!\u2019: Chris Rufo Returns To MSNBC For Debate On CRT","footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-585050","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry"],"fifu_image_url":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/GettyImages-2758614.jpg?w=1200&h=800&ixlib=react-9.0.3","fifu_image_alt":"\u2018It\u2019s A Radical Philosophy Rooted In Marxism!\u2019: Chris Rufo Returns To MSNBC For Debate On CRT","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/585050","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=585050"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/585050\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/2314157"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=585050"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=585050"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=585050"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}