{"id":505880,"date":"2021-05-13T22:06:13","date_gmt":"2021-05-14T02:06:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/?p=505880"},"modified":"2021-05-13T22:06:18","modified_gmt":"2021-05-14T02:06:18","slug":"bret-baier-hammers-liz-cheney-in-brutal-interview-more-people-voted-for-trump-in-wyoming-than-you","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/bret-baier-hammers-liz-cheney-in-brutal-interview-more-people-voted-for-trump-in-wyoming-than-you\/","title":{"rendered":"Bret Baier Hammers Liz Cheney In Brutal Interview: More People Voted For Trump In Wyoming Than You"},"content":{"rendered":"<aside class=\"mashsb-container mashsb-main mashsb-stretched\"><div class=\"mashsb-box\"><div class=\"mashsb-count mash-medium\" style=\"float:left\"><div class=\"counts mashsbcount\">34<\/div><span class=\"mashsb-sharetext\">SHARES<\/span><\/div><div class=\"mashsb-buttons\"><a class=\"mashicon-facebook mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.conservativenewsdaily.net%2Fbreaking-news%2Fbret-baier-hammers-liz-cheney-in-brutal-interview-more-people-voted-for-trump-in-wyoming-than-you%2F\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Facebook<\/span><\/a><a class=\"mashicon-twitter mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/intent\/tweet?text=&amp;url=https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/?p=505880&amp;via=ConservNewsDly\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Twitter<\/span><\/a><a class=\"mashicon-subscribe mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"#\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Subscribe<\/span><\/a><div class=\"onoffswitch2 mash-medium mashsb-noshadow\" style=\"display:none\"><\/div><\/div>\n            <\/div>\n                <div style=\"clear:both\"><\/div><\/aside>\n            <!-- Share buttons by mashshare.net - Version: 4.0.47--><div><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/1-1200x800-1.jpg\" class=\"ff-og-image-inserted\"  style=\"display:none\"><\/div>\n<p>Fox News host Bret Baier grilled Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) in a hard-hitting interview on Thursday evening after House Republicans overwhelmingly voted to oust her as the party\u2019s Conference Chair over her obsession with focusing on former President Donald Trump vs. focusing on President Joe Biden.<\/p>\n<p>During the interview, Cheney appeared to be even more resolute in her desire to go after Trump over focusing on Biden, a point that Baier brought up.<\/p>\n<p>Cheney repeatedly said that those who were criticizing her were wrong or misinformed, and she looked to pick fights with Fox News during the interview.<\/p>\n<div id>\n<p><em>BRET BAIER, FOX NEWS HOST: I want to talk about the situation of on Capitol Hill, your political situation, your colleagues, concluded that you couldn\u2019t be effective as the GOP conference chair, because of your eagerness to challenge former President Trump on his election claims. To be honest, do you agree with them? Could you have done that job considering what you were saying and doing?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>REP. LIZ CHENEY (R-WY): You know, I think the question really is what kind of a party are we going to be going forward? And I think that it\u2019s very important for us to be a party based on truth. I think it\u2019s important for us to understand the threat that the claims the former President is making, the threat is ongoing. I think we know that the kinds of language we\u2019ve heard from him has caused violence in the past. And there\u2019s clearly an attempt to unravel the democracy, if you will, by focusing on challenging the legitimacy of the election, moving us away from abandoning the rule of law. And so I think that for us, as Republicans, we have a huge set of issues, we\u2019ve got to be able to defeat the Democrats over and we\u2019ve got a huge set of policies we\u2019ve got to be able to implement, we have to get people to vote for us. And we can\u2019t do that if we are a party that\u2019s based on a foundation of lies. I think what our president\u2019s doing is dangerous.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>BAIER: But you and your colleagues for at least in part, were elected to block the Biden agenda, which Republicans believe is too far-left and could lead to other things. Aren\u2019t they correct to claim that your focus on the election, and President Trump was somehow not going to get them to that goal?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>CHENEY: No, I think that\u2019s actually wrong, Bret. I think if you look at where we\u2019ve been since the elections, since January 6, we\u2019ve had a real focus on making sure people understand that the Biden policies are dangerous. If you look at the impact for the people of Wyoming, banning oil and gas leases on public lands is really dangerous. It\u2019s really heartless. We\u2019ve been very clear about that. What\u2019s happening at the border is very dangerous. So the issue isn\u2019t whether or not we stand against the Biden policies. The issue is, are we going to be a party that sits by silently while the former president continues to perpetuate lies about the election. And it is the case that there are too many people in the leadership of the Republican Party today who\u2019ve been willing not only to sit by silently, but to help enable that, to help embolden those claims. And that\u2019s dangerous.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>BAIER: So, if you look at the numbers in Wyoming, 70% of Wyoming voted for President Trump, actually more people voted for President Trump than voted for you, a higher percentage voted for President Trump. Now you\u2019re saying you\u2019re dedicating your life to opposing him. So why, we\u2019ll put up those numbers, why should Wyoming voters say reelect you when you\u2019re spending so much energy opposing him? So little opposing Biden?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>CHENEY: Well, you\u2019re wrong.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>BAIER: No, no. I mean these are the numbers.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>CHENEY: No, I\u2019m not disputing the numbers, but I\u2019m disputing your characterization of what I\u2019m doing. I think it\u2019s really important for us to be as strong as possible in defeating the Biden policies. We cannot do that if we enable a lie. We cannot do that if we fail to learn the lessons from the 2020 election. And the people of Wyoming believe deeply in the Constitution, the people of Wyoming know that we must use the Constitution as our shield, that we must defend the Constitution. And so when you look at the challenge that the former president is presenting right now, still today, claiming that the election was stolen, claiming that our electoral process does not accurately reflect the will of the people, no remorse or regret for January 6, continuing to use the language that we know inspired violence in the past\u2014<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>BAIER: And you\u2019ve said that and \u2026 you should because you believe in principle, I get it.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>CHENEY: \u2013but I continue to say it though, but I continue to say it because\u2013<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>BAIER: But for the people of Wyoming who are electing a congress person to fight for them and to fight against the Biden agenda, why wouldn\u2019t they say, is this the person that\u2019s going to get it done? And that\u2019s what your colleagues are asking.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>CHENEY: I\u2019m going to I\u2019m going to answer the question. We all have an obligation. And I would say Fox News, especially, especially Fox News, has a particular obligation to make sure people know the election wasn\u2019t stolen.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>BAIER: And we\u2019ve said that numerous times.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>CHENEY: Fox News, Fox News, Bret, I\u2019m going to answer your question. Fox News needs to\u2014<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>BAIER: No, but if you\u2019re mentioning Fox News, you have to know that this show has said that numerous times.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>CHENEY: make sure that the American people, they need to make sure that the American people. Bret, you\u2019re doing the interview, I\u2019m answering the questions, we need to make sure that the American people recognize and understand that the election wasn\u2019t stolen, that we shouldn\u2019t perpetuate the big lie and that there\u2019s real danger. You know, I\u2019ve worked in countries around the world where we don\u2019t have peaceful transitions of power. And all of us who are elected officials have got to make sure that we obey and abide by the oath that we swore to the Constitution, and that the peaceful transition of power is key to that. Now, if you want to if you\u2019re asking me about my constituents, my constituents believe firmly in the rule of law, they believe firmly in the Constitution, they know that we do not swear allegiance to any individual\u2014<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>BAIER: Ok, let me ask you this\u2014<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>CHENEY: And it\u2019s crucially important\u2014<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>BAIER: And you\u2019ve made this point\u2014<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>CHENEY: And I\u2019m going to make another point, it\u2019s crucially important if we want to be able to defeat the really bad Biden policies, we have to attract voters back to us. We have to attract the voters who left us by making clear that we know that the election wasn\u2019t stolen and we are going to abide by the rule of law.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>BAIER: Do you believe that America is better off with President Biden than President Trump?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>CHENEY: I believe that President Trump\u2019s policies, which I supported 93% of the time, were much better for America. Now, that isn\u2019t the issue, though. The issue is whether or not we abide by the rule of law.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>BAIER: Did you vote for Joe Biden?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>CHENEY: I did not and I would not and I would not vote for a Democrat, ever. The issue is whether or not we are going to stand up for the rule of law and stand up for the Constitution, that is above partisanship. It\u2019s above politics. I think that Americans across Wyoming and across the country know we have to be a party of truth. We\u2019ve got to be a party that stands for substance, we have to be a party of Reagan that looks at a strong national defense, low taxes, limited government, you have to be about ideas, not about a cult of personality to one man who launched a violent attack on the Capitol and who continues to say the election was stolen.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>BAIER: I\u2019m going to read your tweet. Here it is, \u2018Republicans deserve leadership that represents the views of their constituents, not their own personal vendettas, we need leaders in Congress to stand up for conservative Republican ideology. Liz Cheney is not that leader. So instead of training fire on the president, she really should have been training fire on Biden and that agenda, that\u2019s what you want out of your leadership. And unfortunately, she didn\u2019t rise to that challenge.\u2019 You know who that tweet is? George P. Bush, the nephew of President Bush, who tweeted that out yesterday. That is a feeling as you know, and you\u2019ve heard it from your colleagues. So how do you react to that?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>CHENEY: Well, he\u2019s misinformed. And I think that, you know, when you when you look at what we are facing as a nation, there is nothing that we need to do as Republicans that is more important than have a strong Republican Party that can attract back the voters that we lost in 2020. And that means that we have to be in a position where we are being clear, we stand for the rule of law.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>BAIER: Yeah.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>CHENEY: Bret, every time I say we stand for the rule of law, you say, yeah, yeah, you\u2019ve said.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>BAIER: No, no, no. But you have said the same thing exact thing numerous.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>CHENEY: But it\u2019s really important.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>BAIER: And I understand that it\u2019s important.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>CHENEY: But it\u2019s very important.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>BAIER: Now, I\u2019m asking just numerous questions. You said recently that you would be open to challenging former President Trump in 2024 if that\u2019s what it took to keep him from winning again. Tomorrow morning, you\u2019re talking to New Hampshire Today. So, are you running for president?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>CHENEY: I am not, Bret. What I think is really important is that we make sure that the former president because we know what he\u2019s capable of, because we know what he continues to do. And because we know how important it is for us to be able to advance Republican ideals, that we make sure that he never again, get anywhere near the Oval Office. I think that\u2019s crucial. And I think it\u2019s crucial that we begin to build the kind of coalition we need so that we can defeat Joe Biden, so that we can defeat Nancy Pelosi, so we can defeat Chuck Schumer. So the Republicans can actually take control again. But that requires getting back voters that we lost in 2020. And, frankly, that we lost in 2018 with Donald Trump in the Oval Office.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>BAIER: So you mentioned Schumer and Pelosi, take a listen to this.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>[START VIDEO]<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>CHUCK SCHUMER, SENATE MAJORITY LEADER: Liz Cheney spoke truth to power, and now they\u2019re firing her.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>REP. HAKEEM JEFFRIES (D-NY): What would a patriot do? A patriot would do what Liz Cheney has done. And she\u2019s paid a heavy price for it.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>NANCY PELOSI, HOUSE SPEAKER: For her courage, for her patriotism. And I wish her well, perhaps this challenge will make her stronger.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>[END VIDEO]<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>BAIER: Are you comfortable with all of these Democrats singing your praises? Day after day?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>CHENEY: Bret, look, what we\u2019re talking about, these issues of the Constitution and the rule of law should be above politics, it should be above partisanship, it should be above party. Every single one of us, everyone watching this show, everybody who works at Fox, everybody who\u2019s elected to office, all of us have to love our country more. And that means that there are moments when you have to put politics aside, when you have to say I will not be part of unraveling the democracy, that is a fundamentally important thing, the most fundamentally important thing we do, obeying the rule of law, standing up for the Constitution. And I think that we would all be better off as a country, frankly, if more of us said, \u2018we\u2019re gonna stand by the Constitution, we\u2019re going to defend the rule of law, let\u2019s have a vigorous debate about substance and policy.\u2019 Those are really important issues. And I disagree about just about everything with all of those people that you just showed, but those substantive policy debates need to be conducted in a way that is worthy of the people that have fought for our freedom, worthy of the people who have died for our freedom and that reflects who we are as a nation. We need to be proud of our ideals. And we need to know we have the better ideas and that\u2019s how we beat the Democrats.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>BAIER: Some Republicans share your concerns about former President Trump and his false claims about the election. They believe, though, it\u2019s mistake, to challenge him directly. They think it\u2019s much better privately, they\u2019ll tell you to have him fade away somehow. Are they wrong?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>CHENEY: They are. I think that the danger that the former president poses is too great for us to simply hope for the best. And I also think that it\u2019s really incumbent upon those of us who are in positions to be able to talk to the American people, talk to the people of our states, talk to the people of our districts to tell the truth. You know, when when you talk about the extent to which the big lie has taken hold. Part of that is because people have just sort of said, well, we\u2019re going to ignore it and we\u2019re going to move on. But too many people are embracing the former president and enabling that lie. And that lie is toxic to our democracy.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>BAIER: Last year, many in the media and in Washington, including you, amplified anonymous sources, stories, claiming that President Trump ignored intelligence that Russians were paying bounties to kill Americans in Afghanistan. We\u2019ve since learned that that intelligence was pretty shoddy, poorly sourced, do you regret taking part in spreading that story?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>CHENEY: No. I think actually, if you look at the details of the story, Bret, you\u2019ll see that the intelligence community has made a recommendation about that intelligence. They\u2019ve talked about having low confidence. I think if you go back and look at what I said, every single thing I said, I said, if those stories are true, we need to know why the President and the Vice President were not briefed on them. And made very clear that we were concerned, I remain concerned about the role of the Russian government in Afghanistan, the role of the Russians in terms of working against our interests around the world.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>BAIER: Right, but you pointed to President Trump and my point is that you were GOP Conference Chair, and I\u2019m just articulating what some of your colleagues have said, that they thought that that was a moment where they thought that your focus on the former president was more important to you, then articulating GOP agenda and what they wish to do.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>CHENEY: Well, I think you really ought to go check your facts, Bret, because he was the sitting president at that time. And not the former president. And I think if you if you look at what I said, I said, and you can pull up that tweet, too. I said, if these reports are true, then the White House must explain why they did not brief the president or vice president. So you know, I remain concerned about the intelligence. I think you will see if you go back and look at the facts about what the intelligence community has said. They have not said those reports are not true. They said that they\u2019ve got low confidence. And I think it\u2019s an important thing to be concerned about. We really appreciate you coming on.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><i><span>The Daily Wire is one of America\u2019s fastest-growing conservative media companies and counter-cultural outlets for news, opinion, and entertainment. Get inside access to The Daily Wire by becoming a <\/span><\/i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dailywire.com\/subscribe\"><i><span>member<\/span><\/i><\/a><i><span>.<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Fox News host Bret Baier grilled Rep. 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