{"id":2455573,"date":"2025-07-04T07:19:01","date_gmt":"2025-07-04T11:19:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/podcast-bros-like-andrew-schulz-are-having-the-talks-men-crave\/"},"modified":"2025-07-04T07:22:23","modified_gmt":"2025-07-04T11:22:23","slug":"podcast-bros-like-andrew-schulz-are-having-the-talks-men-crave","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/podcast-bros-like-andrew-schulz-are-having-the-talks-men-crave\/","title":{"rendered":"Podcast Bros Like Andrew Schulz Are Having The Talks Men Crave"},"content":{"rendered":"<aside class=\"mashsb-container mashsb-main mashsb-stretched\"><div class=\"mashsb-box\"><div class=\"mashsb-count mash-medium\" style=\"&quot;\"><div class=\"counts mashsbcount\">22<\/div><span class=\"mashsb-sharetext\">SHARES<\/span><\/div><div class=\"mashsb-buttons\"><a class=\"mashicon-facebook mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.conservativenewsdaily.net%2Fbreaking-news%2Fpodcast-bros-like-andrew-schulz-are-having-the-talks-men-crave%2F\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Facebook<\/span><\/a><a class=\"mashicon-twitter mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/intent\/tweet?text=&amp;url=https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/?p=2455573&amp;via=ConservNewsDly\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Twitter<\/span><\/a><a class=\"mashicon-subscribe mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"#\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Subscribe<\/span><\/a><div class=\"onoffswitch2 mash-medium mashsb-noshadow\" style=\"display:none\"><\/div><\/div>\n            <\/div>\n                <div style=\"clear:both\"><\/div><\/aside>\n            <!-- Share buttons by mashshare.net - Version: 4.0.47--><p>in the led-up to the 2024 election, podcast appearances significantly influenced political candidates&#8217; outreach, particularly for Donald Trump, who featured on numerous podcasts like Joe Rogan&#8217;s and Barstool Sports&#8217;.Kamala Harris had fewer appearances, with her most meaningful being on Alex Cooper&#8217;s &#8220;Call Her Daddy.&#8221; Following Trump&#8217;s victory,some democrats criticized Rogan&#8217;s influence,while John Oliver warned against blaming him solely for Harris&#8217;s loss. The Democrats have as allocated $20 million to understand their loss of male voters, recognizing the growing popularity of podcasts among men.<\/p>\n<p>Comedian Andrew Schulz highlighted in an interview that authenticity and genuine curiosity in conversations attract audiences,contrasting it with corporate media&#8217;s frequently enough agenda-driven interviews. Schulz emphasized that podcasts foster intimacy and allow participants to express themselves freely, <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/3YuVZYV\" >unlike customary media formats<\/a>. He argued that while more meaningful in-person conversations would be ideal for men seeking camaraderie,podcasts have become an avenue for connection and vulnerability.Schulz and other podcasters demonstrate that audiences prefer genuine dialog over scripted interactions, posing a challenge for mainstream media to adapt to this demand for authenticity. <\/p>\n<p>Richard Cromwell, who writes for The Federalist and co-hosts a podcast, suggests that the success of podcasters lies in their ability to engage audiences as equals, fostering a connection that traditional media fails to replicate.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"readmore\">\n    <button onclick=\"showReadMore()\" id=\"readmorebtn\">Read more&#8230;<\/button>\n<\/p>\n<hr id=\"line\">\n<span id=\"more\"><\/p>\n<div>\n<p>In the 2024 election, candidate appearances on podcasts <a href=\"https:\/\/variety.com\/2024\/tv\/news\/joe-rogan-megyn-kelly-podcasts-shaped-election-1236208937\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">were huge<\/a>, yuge even. Donald Trump showed up on an <a href=\"https:\/\/www.forbes.com\/sites\/stephenpastis\/2024\/10\/29\/here-are-the-biggest-moments-from-trumps-bro-podcast-tour-ahead-of-joe-rogan-appearance\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">array of them<\/a>, from Theo Von to Joe Rogan to Barstool Sports&rsquo; <em>Bussin&rsquo; With The Boys. <\/em>Kamala Harris did fewer, with Alex Cooper&rsquo;s <em>Call Her Daddy<\/em> being the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.poynter.org\/commentary\/2024\/joe-rogan-donald-trump-kamala-harris-podcast-appearances\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">most notable<\/a>. After Trump&rsquo;s resounding win, some Democrats blamed Rogan for the victory, though even John Oliver <a href=\"https:\/\/variety.com\/2024\/tv\/news\/john-oliver-kamala-harris-loss-joe-rogan-latino-voters-1236206250\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">cautioned against<\/a> that notion. (Also, Rogan <a href=\"https:\/\/nypost.com\/2024\/10\/31\/us-news\/joe-rogan-says-he-gave-kamala-harris-open-invitation-for-interview\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">gave<\/a> Harris an &ldquo;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/what-we-now-know-about-the-rogan-harris-interview-that-never-happened-washington-examiner\/\" title=\"What we now know about the ...-Harris ... that never happened - Washington Examiner\">open invitation&#038;rdquo<\/a>; to come on his podcast, but she declined his terms.)&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>More recently, Democrats announced they&rsquo;re prepared to spend <a href=\"https:\/\/www.politico.com\/news\/2025\/06\/03\/democrats-young-men-study-00384370\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">$20 million<\/a> to figure out why they lost men in the election, with podcasts being listed as part of the solution to bringing them back. The thing is, though, while almost anyone with a pulse could explain why Democrats are losing men, they&rsquo;re still missing the forest for the trees when it comes to why podcasts have taken an outsize role in American life, particularly for men. Fortunately, as they&rsquo;re unlikely to listen to him since he voted for Trump, comedian Andrew Schulz recently offered a case study in why the medium is taking off in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/06\/21\/magazine\/andrew-schulz-interview.html?unlocked_article_code=1.TE8.nhBe.FFzfe7guRMAM&amp;smid=url-share\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">an interview<\/a>, which you can watch <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=bnsN7GiCOYE&amp;t=1s\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">here<\/a>, with The New York Times&rsquo; David Marchese.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>The entire thing is worth your time, but Schulz gets to the gist of the matter fairly early in the interview when Marchese presses him on whether he felt he did the &ldquo;necessary work of asking [Trump] difficult questions.&rdquo; To this, Schulz replied:&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>I don&rsquo;t know what you think the goal of journalism is specifically. Is it to ask the things you&rsquo;re curious about? Do you have a responsibility for your audience within The New York Times? Do you have a responsibility for the New York Times audience? Are you responsible for people in Dubai? China? Japan? They might have certain curiosities that you didn&rsquo;t address. You&rsquo;re going to let&nbsp;<em>somebody<\/em>&nbsp;down. What I&rsquo;d like to see more is people asking the questions that they are curious about themselves, instead of trying to pander to what their audience is curious about. With the Trump interview, I had three things I wanted to ask him about, and I asked him those things.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>An individual, in this case Schulz, was personally curious about some things, which he asked Trump about. His audience may have wanted different questions, but given the popularity of his show, he&rsquo;s apparently doing something right. And that something is what the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/the-biden-family-racket-is-everything-leftists-fabricated-about-the-trumps-and-media-are-crickets\/\" title=\"The Biden Family Racket Is Every... Leftists Fabricated About The Trumps, And ... Are Crickets\">corporate media gave<\/a> up on long, long ago: offering authenticity rather than trying to signal their own views, their own &ldquo;correct&rdquo; thinking, via their lines of questioning.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>What a novel concept! Why didn&rsquo;t anyone ever think of this before? It&rsquo;s not like it&rsquo;s a new concept. Bill and Ted tried to warn us, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=xkfvg1j1yg8\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">way back in 1989<\/a>, that &ldquo;the only true wisdom consists in knowing that you know nothing.&rdquo; That wisdom, formally known as the Socratic method for some reason, is a great foundation upon which to conduct an interview. Schulz simply follows that dictum rather than assuming he knows something and then trying to lead the audience into agreeing with him.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Granted, the longer form of podcasts allows for this much more effectively than <a href=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/cnn-contributor-suggests-democrats-should-focus-their-criticism-on-trump\/\" title=\"CNN contributor suggests Democrats should focus their criticism on Trump\">corporate media&#038;rsquo<\/a>;s typically short interviews. It gives the guests time to relax and settle into a conversation rather than focusing on spitting out a few soundbites before heading to the next microphone. It increases intimacy and decreases how guarded a person is. It gets them talking, which goes back to the authenticity angle.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>But there&rsquo;s more to it than that. I am admittedly biased in this area as I produce the long-form podcast <a href=\"https:\/\/www.buzzsprout.com\/1942562\/episodes\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em>Cookin&rsquo; Up A Story<\/em><\/a>. While we split our shows into two episodes, we typically record for three to four hours every Tuesday night. The first hour is often just about getting the guest settled in and comfortable, though there are naturals who hit the ground running. The thing is, though, that the audience listens to all of each episode, even the slow parts. Sometimes, ones we think went terribly end up getting hugely, yugely even, positive responses.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>What draws our listeners in, like those who listen to Schulz or Rogan or any of the heavyweights, is that they feel like they&rsquo;re in the room with us. It&rsquo;s like listening to a conversation they might have with their bros while sitting around a campfire. Too many of our listeners <a href=\"https:\/\/www.aaronrenn.com\/p\/male-friendship?utm_source=post-email-title&amp;publication_id=25676&amp;post_id=165097434&amp;utm_campaign=email-post-title&amp;isFreemail=false&amp;r=64kbn&amp;triedRedirect=true&amp;utm_medium=email\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">don&rsquo;t have any bros to sit around a campfire with<\/a>. And while that can be great for podcast numbers, it&rsquo;s not so great for the country.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Without delving into the pros and cons of more sex parity in the workplace and the reduction in sex-segregated schooling, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/3-min-after-new-account-instagram-serves-sex-content-to-13-year-old-boys-analysis\/\" title=\"Analysis Reveals Instagram Shows Sexual Content to 13-Year-Old Boys Within 3 Minutes of New Account Creation\">men don&#038;rsquo<\/a>;t have spaces in which they can just be men. They don&rsquo;t have avenues in which they can express vulnerability. (Sure, they may have wives, but most prefer their husbands to be more stoic.) They don&rsquo;t have places to just be with the bros and blow off steam.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>So they created podcasts in which they can do that, and then other men started listening. Would it be better for them to find others to have those conversations with rather than seeking virtual brotherhood through the internet? Of course, which is also what the podcast bros, as they&rsquo;re often known, are truly pushing. It&rsquo;s not about politics or policy or even mixed martial arts. It&rsquo;s about men being men.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>It&rsquo;s also why the podcasters have more influence than the media. Schulz himself said that, like politics, podcasts are downstream from culture. They&rsquo;re not pushing an agenda; they&rsquo;re expressing genuine curiosity in their fellow men and women. They&rsquo;re having conversations, which is something we used to do in real life in the days before the <a href=\"https:\/\/thefederalist.com\/2025\/04\/04\/if-youre-hysterical-about-trumps-tariffs-go-touch-grass\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">24-hour news cycle<\/a>. They&rsquo;re aware that everyone has a story to tell and are letting them tell that story.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>In short, the secret formula the podcasters have figured out &mdash; the one that seemed to largely baffle David Marchese &mdash; is that audiences want to be talked to, not talked at, just like they do in person. They also want to be heard. And until the corporate media learn that lesson, they&rsquo;re going to continue failing, lecturing us along the way to their final whimper.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<hr>\n<p>      Richard Cromwell is a writer and senior contributor at The Federalist. He lives in Northwest Arkansas with his wife, three daughters, and two crazy dogs. Co-host of the podcast <a href=\"http:\/\/coffeeandcochon.com\/%E2%80%9C\">Coffee &amp; Cochon<\/a>, you can find him on <a href=\"\/\/www.facebook.com\/jrichardcromwell%E2%80%9C\">Facebook<\/a>  and <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/rcromwell4\">Twitter<\/a>, though you should probably avoid using social media.<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Podcasts played a major role in the 2024 election, with Trump appearing on many shows<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":701,"featured_media":2455574,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_mo_disable_npp":"","fifu_image_url":"https:\/\/thefederalist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/NYT.png","fifu_image_alt":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[33651],"tags":[58354,58421,11319],"class_list":["post-2455573","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-the-western-journal","tag-andrew-schulz","tag-mens-discussions","tag-podcast"],"fifu_image_url":"https:\/\/thefederalist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/NYT.png","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2455573","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/701"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2455573"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2455573\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2455577,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2455573\/revisions\/2455577"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/2455574"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2455573"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2455573"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2455573"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}