{"id":2428530,"date":"2025-04-28T21:55:01","date_gmt":"2025-04-29T01:55:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/joy-reid-is-fact-checked-on-claims-linking-roman-empires-fall-to-lack-of-diversity\/"},"modified":"2025-04-28T21:56:16","modified_gmt":"2025-04-29T01:56:16","slug":"joy-reid-is-fact-checked-on-claims-linking-roman-empires-fall-to-lack-of-diversity","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/joy-reid-is-fact-checked-on-claims-linking-roman-empires-fall-to-lack-of-diversity\/","title":{"rendered":"Joy Reid is fact-checked on claims linking Roman Empire\u2019s fall to lack of diversity"},"content":{"rendered":"<aside class=\"mashsb-container mashsb-main mashsb-stretched\"><div class=\"mashsb-box\"><div class=\"mashsb-count mash-medium\" style=\"&quot;\"><div class=\"counts mashsbcount\">28<\/div><span class=\"mashsb-sharetext\">SHARES<\/span><\/div><div class=\"mashsb-buttons\"><a class=\"mashicon-facebook mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.conservativenewsdaily.net%2Fbreaking-news%2Fjoy-reid-is-fact-checked-on-claims-linking-roman-empires-fall-to-lack-of-diversity%2F\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Facebook<\/span><\/a><a class=\"mashicon-twitter mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/intent\/tweet?text=&amp;url=https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/?p=2428530&amp;via=ConservNewsDly\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Twitter<\/span><\/a><a class=\"mashicon-subscribe mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"#\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Subscribe<\/span><\/a><div class=\"onoffswitch2 mash-medium mashsb-noshadow\" style=\"display:none\"><\/div><\/div>\n            <\/div>\n                <div style=\"clear:both\"><\/div><\/aside>\n            <!-- Share buttons by mashshare.net - Version: 4.0.47--><p>Former MSNBC host Joy Reid has stirred controversy by claiming that the fall of the Roman Empire was due to a lack of diversity, suggesting that the United States could face a similar decline if it does not fully commit to diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) initiatives. Reid made these comments during a Substack podcast where she criticized corporations for backing away from DEI efforts, linking this trend to political changes associated with the Trump administration.<\/p>\n<p>reid argued that if the U.S. continues to diminish its diversity, it will resemble Europe\u2014an aging, declining society. She highlighted demographic projections,predicting that by 2045,the U.S.will no longer have a white majority. Her statements have <a href=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/biden-faces-backlash-after-humiliating-china-meeting-incredible-incompetence-biden-is-weak\/\" title=\"Biden Faces Backlash After \u2018Humiliating\u2019 China Meeting: \u2018Incredible Incompetence,\u2019 \u2018Biden Is Weak\u2019\">faced significant backlash<\/a> from historians and commentators, including David Sypher Jr., who wrote in the *Spectator* that the Roman empire was actually one of history&#8217;s most diverse civilizations. He attributed Rome&#8217;s collapse to political corruption, economic challenges, and internal decay, rather than ethnic makeup.<\/p>\n<p>Critics argue that Reid\u2019s interpretation of history is not only inaccurate but misleading, noting that the Roman Empire&#8217;s decline resulted from <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/3YuVZYV\">complex socio-economic factors<\/a> rather than a lack of racial diversity.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"readmore\">\n    <button onclick=\"showReadMore()\" id=\"readmorebtn\">Read more&#8230;<\/button>\n<\/p>\n<hr id=\"line\">\n<span id=\"more\"><\/p>\n<p><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><\/p>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\"><span class=\"tdb-mobile-menu-button\"><i class=\"tdb-mobile-menu-icon td-icon-mobile\"><\/i><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\"><span class=\"tdb-header-search-button-mob dropdown-toggle\" data-toggle=\"dropdown\"><i class=\"tdb-mobile-search-icon td-icon-search\"><\/i><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\"><span class=\"tdb-mobile-menu-button\"><i class=\"tdb-mobile-menu-icon td-icon-mobile\"><\/i><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\">\n<div class=\"tdb-drop-down-search\" aria-labelledby=\"td-header-search-button\">\n<div class=\"tdb-drop-down-search-inner\">\n<form method=\"get\" class=\"tdb-search-form\" action=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonexaminer.com\/\"><\/form>\n<div class=\"tdb-aj-search\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonexaminer.com\/#\" role=\"button\" aria-label=\"Search\" class=\"tdb-head-search-btn dropdown-toggle\" data-toggle=\"dropdown\"><i class=\"tdb-search-icon td-icon-search\"><\/i><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\">\n<h1 class=\"tdb-title-text\">Joy Reid is fact-checked on claims linking Roman Empire&rsquo;s fall to lack of diversity<\/h1>\n<div><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-title-line\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\">\n<div id=\"Brid_2075149\" class=\"tpd-featured-video bridtv\"><\/div>\n<p>Former MSNBC host <a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonexaminer.com\/tag\/joy-reid\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"Joy Reid\">Joy Reid<\/a> sparked controversy after claiming that the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonexaminer.com\/tag\/ancient-rome\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"Roman Empire\">Roman Empire<\/a> collapsed due to a lack of diversity and warning that the United States could face a similar fate if it doesn&rsquo;t fully embrace <a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonexaminer.com\/tag\/dei\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"diversity, equity, and inclusion\">diversity, equity, and inclusion<\/a> efforts.<\/p>\n<p>During a live Substack podcast appearance alongside commentator Wajahat Ali, Reid criticized major U.S. corporations for retreating from DEI initiatives, tying the trend to broader social and political shifts under the Trump administration.<\/p>\n<div class=\"recommended-stories\">\n<h2>Recommended Stories<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonexaminer.com\/news\/white-house\/3394290\/trump-jab-taylor-swift-eagles-white-house-visit\/\">Trump takes jab at Taylor Swift during Eagles&#8217; White House visit<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonexaminer.com\/news\/white-house\/3394111\/trump-philadelphia-eagles-white-house-super-bowl-win\/\">Trump welcomes Philadelphia Eagles to White House to celebrate Super Bowl win<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonexaminer.com\/news\/house\/3393925\/house-gop-asylum-application-fees-border-buoys-budget-reconciliation-agenda\/\">House GOP unveils asylum application fees and new border buoys in budget agenda<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"article-paywall\">\n<p>&ldquo;If you take that away and try to distill us just down to white folks, we&rsquo;ll be like Europe &mdash; an aging, slowly dying former empire,&rdquo; Reid <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/dcexaminer\/status\/1916955580474003855\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"said\">said<\/a>. &ldquo;The Roman Empire didn&rsquo;t survive because it didn&rsquo;t have enough strength in its diversity. It suppressed its diversity, and it died. If the U.S. wants to be the Roman Empire, keep voting the way you voting, y&rsquo;all.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Joy Reid claims the US will be &#8216;slowly dying and aging&#8217; like the &#8216;Roman Empire&#8217; if diversity isn&#8217;t pushed<\/p>\n<p>READ: <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/KyPbDibYpM\">https:\/\/t.co\/KyPbDibYpM<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/fY4QelwK6R\">pic.twitter.com\/fY4QelwK6R<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Washington Examiner (@dcexaminer) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/dcexaminer\/status\/1916955580474003855?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">April 28, 2025<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> <script data-cfasync=\"false\" src=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonexaminer.com\/cdn-cgi\/scripts\/5c5dd728\/cloudflare-static\/email-decode.min.js\"><\/script><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script>    <\/p>\n<p>She also pointed to demographic trends, noting that Generation Alpha, those born after 2010, is already majority nonwhite, predicting that the U.S. will no longer have a white majority by 2045.<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;We are essentially a Latin American country, and we&rsquo;re going to look more like Latin American countries. &hellip; Most people will be brown, and the majority will not be white,&rdquo; she added.<\/p>\n<p>Reid&rsquo;s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/jimmy-fallon-draws-fire-for-calling-trans-actor-bud-amid-already-bad-year-for-tonight-show-host\/\" title=\"Jimmy ...on criticized for referring to trans actor as &#039;Bud&#039; during a tough year for the Tonight Show host\">comments quickly drew criticism<\/a>, particularly from conservatives and historians.<\/p>\n<p>Writing for the<em> Spectator,<\/em> David Sypher Jr. <a href=\"https:\/\/thespectator.com\/topic\/joy-reid-rome-fall-lack-diversity\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"pushed back\">pushed back<\/a> on her historical claims in a piece titled &ldquo;No, Joy Reid: Rome didn&rsquo;t fall due to a lack of &lsquo;diversity.&rsquo;&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>Sypher argued that far from being homogenous, the Roman Empire was among the most diverse civilizations in history.<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;By the time of its collapse, Rome&rsquo;s legions were filled with soldiers from Gaul, North Africa, the Middle East, and the Germanic frontiers. Emperors like Septimius Severus hailed from modern-day Libya,&rdquo; he wrote.<\/p>\n<p>He attributed the empire&rsquo;s fall not to ethnic makeup but to deep-seated issues like political corruption, unsustainable taxation, collapsing civic values, low birthrates, and overreliance on slave labor.<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;No diversity mandate could have reversed a cultural rot that reached the very soul of Roman society,&rdquo; Sypher argued.<\/p>\n<p>He also noted that Europe&rsquo;s modern-day crisis is similarly rooted not in racial composition but in demographic decline and a loss of civilizational confidence. Fertility rates across Europe have fallen well below replacement levels, raising concerns about future economic and cultural sustainability.<\/p>\n<p>Other netizens were quick to challenge Reid&rsquo;s historical analysis, calling it both inaccurate and misleading.<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonexaminer.com\/daily-memo\/3393527\/how-to-measure-trump-100-days\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"HOW TO MEASURE TRUMP'S 100 DAYS?\">HOW TO MEASURE TRUMP&rsquo;S 100 DAYS?<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;This claim is not only hilarious, but completely historically inaccurate, as the empire was multi-ethnic&mdash;including North Africans, Middle Easterners, and Europeans,&rdquo; one user <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/CR0302CR\/status\/1916920682044403973\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"wrote\">wrote<\/a> on X. &ldquo;Its decline resulted from economic instability, military overextension, and invasions, not racial composition.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>Another <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/Krynito\/status\/1916856772960436349\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"added\">added<\/a>, &ldquo;The fall of the Roman Empire was not about race&mdash;it was the result of military overreach, economic decline, corruption, and invasions by various groups (like the Huns, Vandals, and Visigoths), none of whom can be tied to a singular &lsquo;racial&rsquo; cause.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p> <script>!function(){var g=window;g.googletag=g.googletag||{},g.googletag.cmd=g.googletag.cmd||[],g.googletag.cmd.push(function(){g.googletag.pubads().setTargeting(\"has-featured-video\",\"true\")})}();<\/script><script>var _bp=_bp||[];_bp.push({\"div\":\"Brid_2075149\",\"obj\":{\"id\":\"27789\",\"width\":\"1280\",\"height\":\"720\",\"stickyDirection\":\"below\",\"video\":\"2075149\"}});<\/script><script defer src=\"https:\/\/services.brid.tv\/player\/build\/brid.min.js\"><\/script><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\"><\/div>\n<p><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Joy Reid faces fact-checking over claims linking the Roman Empire&#8217;s fall to diversity issues<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2678,"featured_media":2428531,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_mo_disable_npp":"","fifu_image_url":"https:\/\/www.washingtonexaminer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/Joy-Reid.webp","fifu_image_alt":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[33651],"tags":[51272,13420,32137,54248],"class_list":["post-2428530","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-the-western-journal","tag-diversity-2","tag-fact-check","tag-joy-reid","tag-roman-empire"],"fifu_image_url":"https:\/\/www.washingtonexaminer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/Joy-Reid.webp","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2428530","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2678"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2428530"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2428530\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2428534,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2428530\/revisions\/2428534"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/2428531"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2428530"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2428530"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2428530"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}