{"id":2392398,"date":"2025-01-19T14:09:00","date_gmt":"2025-01-19T19:09:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/flashback-when-gavin-newsom-faced-off-with-pastor-john-macarthur\/"},"modified":"2025-01-19T14:11:41","modified_gmt":"2025-01-19T19:11:41","slug":"flashback-when-gavin-newsom-faced-off-with-pastor-john-macarthur","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/flashback-when-gavin-newsom-faced-off-with-pastor-john-macarthur\/","title":{"rendered":"Flashback: When Gavin Newsom Faced off with Pastor John MacArthur"},"content":{"rendered":"<aside class=\"mashsb-container mashsb-main mashsb-stretched\"><div class=\"mashsb-box\"><div class=\"mashsb-count mash-medium\" style=\"&quot;\"><div class=\"counts mashsbcount\">20<\/div><span class=\"mashsb-sharetext\">SHARES<\/span><\/div><div class=\"mashsb-buttons\"><a class=\"mashicon-facebook mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.conservativenewsdaily.net%2Fbreaking-news%2Fflashback-when-gavin-newsom-faced-off-with-pastor-john-macarthur%2F\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Facebook<\/span><\/a><a class=\"mashicon-twitter mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/intent\/tweet?text=&amp;url=https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/?p=2392398&amp;via=ConservNewsDly\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Twitter<\/span><\/a><a class=\"mashicon-subscribe mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"#\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Subscribe<\/span><\/a><div class=\"onoffswitch2 mash-medium mashsb-noshadow\" style=\"display:none\"><\/div><\/div>\n            <\/div>\n                <div style=\"clear:both\"><\/div><\/aside>\n            <!-- Share buttons by mashshare.net - Version: 4.0.47--><p>The \u200barticle discusses the political journey\u2062 of California Governor Gavin Newsom, portraying\u2064 him \u2063as a prominent figure in the\u200c Democratic Party. It reflects on his leadership amidst\u200c various challenges in California, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/heres-why-britains-tories-are-about-to-get-slaughtered\/\" title=\"Here&#039;s Why Britain&#039;s Tories Are About To Get Slaughtered\">including high taxes<\/a> and severe wildfires. The narrative introduces his earlier days as\u2064 the mayor of San Francisco and contrasts his \u200cviews with those of Pastor John MacArthur, who represents\u2063 a more traditional Christian moral framework.<\/p>\n<p>During a\u2062 televised debate moderated by larry King, Newsom defended same-sex marriage, \u2063likening opposition to it to discrimination against interracial marriage, while claiming to uphold his Catholic beliefs. MacArthur, though, challenged Newsom by\u2062 questioning\u200c the authenticity of his faith, asking whether he believes in the Bible as\u2062 the Word of God, which Newsom was hesitant to answer directly.<\/p>\n<p>The\u2062 article suggests\u2062 that\u200c MacArthur&#8217;s position on marriage aligns with biblical principles, \u2063arguing that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/uk-police-commish-threatens-to-come-after-even-us-citizens-like-elon-musk-for-exercising-free-speech\/\" title=\"UK Police Commish Threatens to &#039;Come After&#039; Even US Citizens Like Elon Musk for Exercising Free Speech\">societal issues stem<\/a> from abandoning these \u200btraditional values. It underscores that California has shifted away from such biblical truths \u200bto adopt more progressive ideologies,which the author criticizes as harmful. \u2062The conclusion calls\u2062 for a return to these &#8220;old constructs&#8221; \u200cto address the perceived moral and societal decline\u2063 in California.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"readmore\">\n    <button onclick=\"showReadMore()\" id=\"readmorebtn\">Read more&#8230;<\/button>\n<\/p>\n<hr id=\"line\">\n<span id=\"more\"><\/p>\n<p><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><\/p>\n<section> \t\t\t\t<script>console.log(\"ad slot (AC1)\")<\/script><script>console.log(\"ad slot (IC1)\")<\/script><script>console.log(\"ad slot (IC2)\")<\/script><script>console.log(\"ad slot (IC3)\")<\/script><script>console.log(\"ad slot (IC4)\")<\/script><script>console.log(\"ad slot (REP_0)\")<\/script><\/p>\n<p>California Gov. Gavin Newsom is a rising star in the Democratic Party.<\/p>\n<p>He is best known, of course, for ineptly leading the troubled state of California through high taxes, <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/3YuVZYV\">rampant illegal immigration<\/a>, notorious bureaucracy, and a host of other issues, not to mention the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.westernjournal.com\/just-7-months-fires-gavin-newsom-cut-101-million-forest-wildfire-funding\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">devastating fires<\/a> currently burning down Los Angeles.<\/p>\n<p>But Newsom was not always the chief executive of the Golden State. Two decades ago, he was just the lowly mayor of San Francisco.<\/p>\n<p>As Newsom was climbing the political ladder, John MacArthur, the pastor of Grace Community Church in the Los Angeles suburb of Sun Valley, California, was faithfully pastoring his congregation and pumping out expositional preaching, a task that the now-octogenarian continues to this day.<\/p>\n<p>The paths of the minister and the magistrate once crossed when they sparred in a conversation moderated by television host Larry King about their competing <a href=\"https:\/\/www.westernjournal.com\/pastor-john-macarthur-calls-gavin-newsoms-reprehensible-act-gross-blasphemy-fierce-letter\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">moral visions<\/a> with respect to so-called same-sex marriage. That debate remains relevant to the present day.<\/p>\n<p> <script type=\"text\/javascript\"> \t\t\tif ( getCookie( \"ff_subbed\" ) ) { \t\t\t\tdocument.getElementById(\"stnvideo\").remove() \t\t\t} \t\t<\/script> <\/p>\n<p>Newsom likened opposition to that type of so-called marriage with opposition to interracial marriage, touting his bona fides as a &ldquo;practicing Catholic.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;I don&rsquo;t see what we&rsquo;re doing, in terms of advancing the bond of love and monogamy, and extending that to families, families of same sex, in any way, shape, or form, takes away anything from the church or the sanctity of the union that my wife and I have,&rdquo; the young mayor insisted.<\/p>\n<p>MacArthur, who <a href=\"https:\/\/www.westernjournal.com\/pastor-john-macarthur-scores-historic-win-church-closure-battle\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">listened<\/a> intently that entire time, only had one simple question.<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;I would just like to ask the mayor, as a &lsquo;practicing Catholic,&rsquo; do you believe the Bible is the Word of God?&rdquo; he inquired.<\/p>\n<p>Newsom did not like that question, saying he would not enter into a &ldquo;theological debate&rdquo; with the pastor. When MacArthur pressed again, he responded that &ldquo;out of respect, I guess I do.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<div class=\"firefly-embed\"> <iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"John MacArthur Confronts S.F. Mayor Gavin Newsom O\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/NKV8ad4YPoo?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<p>&ldquo;When the Bible says, when God created man, he said one man and one woman, cleaved together for life,&rdquo; MacArthur responded. &ldquo;That&rsquo;s a family. Jesus in the New Testament reaffirms that, all the writers of the Old and the New Testament affirm it. Adultery, bestiality, homosexuality was punishable by death according to the Old Testament law, because it was so serious in those early years, because it literally shattered the hope of civilization.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>MacArthur also noted that such sins are forgivable, and that &ldquo;Jesus died to redeem us from those sins.&rdquo; But King wanted to know why any of MacArthur&rsquo;s points were relevant to the state. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.westernjournal.com\/youtube-removes-john-macarthurs-recent-sermon-hate-speech-violation\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">MacArthur<\/a> said that he simply wanted clarity on Newsom&rsquo;s authority, given his claim to be a &ldquo;practicing Catholic,&rdquo; at least for the time being.<\/p>\n<p>Newsom doubled down on his remarks, saying he was &ldquo;proud to represent a city that has diverse points of view&rdquo; and that has &ldquo;evolved from the old constructs that I think have, frankly, held back society.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>Christians would probably say that MacArthur won the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.westernjournal.com\/op-ed-pastor-john-macarthur-david-california-tyranny-giant-slain\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">battle of ideas<\/a> that day. But there is no question that Newsom and his allies made significant advances in the culture war throughout the following two decades.<\/p>\n<p>Newsom continues to believe that Christian sexual ethics &ldquo;held back society,&rdquo; aggressively applying that claim not only to homosexuality, but also to transgenderism, abortion, and much more.<\/p>\n<p>Every year, more and more &ldquo;old constructs&rdquo; of biblical truth are thrown away in California, and new constructs of pagan falsehood take their place.<\/p>\n<p>But the fruit speaks for itself, and the fruit on the dying tree of California is unquestionably rotten.<\/p>\n<p>California today is not only a physical hellscape amid the most recent bout of fires, but is also a spiritual hellscape, where anyone can murder their preborn baby, pretend to get married to a member of the same sex, or mutilate their own genitals, all under the auspices of a tyrannical bureaucracy that fails to ensure a reasonable cost of living or a basic sense of law and order.<\/p>\n<p>The issue, of course, is the one that MacArthur mentioned first.<\/p>\n<p>California leaders see themselves, rather than God and his revealed Word, as the ultimate authority. That is ultimately why the California experiment has failed.<\/p>\n<p>Perhaps the Golden State should rewatch this conversation and consider returning to some of those &ldquo;old constructs.&rdquo; At this point, they do not have much else to lose.<\/p>\n<div style=\"position: relative;\">\n<div class=\"ff-fancy-header-container\"> \t\t\t \t<\/div>\n<div class=\"entry-submit-correction inner-content\">\n<div class=\"correction-form\">\n<form style=\"display: none;\">\n<div class=\"sc-name-field\"> \t\t\t\t\t\t<label>* Name<\/label> \t\t\t\t\t\t<br \/> \t\t\t\t\t\t<input type=\"text\" name=\"name\" required> \t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n<div class=\"sc--field\"> \t\t\t\t\t\t<label>* <\/label> \t\t\t\t\t\t<br \/> \t\t\t\t\t\t<input type=\"text\" name=\"\" required> \t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n<p> \t\t\t\t\t<label>* Message<\/label> \t\t\t\t\t<br \/> \t\t\t\t\t<textarea name=\"message\" required><\/textarea> \t\t\t\t\t \t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<div class=\"required-message\" style=\"display: none; padding-bottom: 15px;\">* All fields are required.<\/div>\n<p> \t\t\t\t\t<input type=\"submit\" value=\"Submit\" onclick=\"event.preventDefault(); firefly_sc();\"> \t\t\t\t\t \t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<div class=\"firefly-sc-confirm\" style=\"display: none;\">Success!<\/div>\n<\/p><\/form>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p> \t\t<script> \t\t\tfunction firefly_sc() { \t\t\t\tif( typeof window.captchaPublicKey==typeof undefined ){ \t\t\t\t\tconsole.error('window.captchaPublicKey is not defined'); \t\t\t\t} \t\t\t\tgrecaptcha.execute( window.captchaPublicKey, { action: 'submit_correction' } ).then( function( token ) { \t\t\t\t\tvar opts={ \t\t\t\t\t\taction:    'firefly_sc_submit', \t\t\t\t\t\tname:      document.querySelector( '.entry-submit-correction [name=\"name\"]' ).value, \t\t\t\t\t\t:     document.querySelector( '.entry-submit-correction [name=\"\"]' ).value, \t\t\t\t\t\tmessage:   document.querySelector( '.entry-submit-correction [name=\"message\"]' ).value, \t\t\t\t\t\tpost_id:   firefly_post_id, \t\t\t\t\t\tcap_token: token \t\t\t\t\t}  \t\t\t\t\tvar inputs=[ 'name', '', 'message' ];  \t\t\t\t\tfor( var i=0; i <inputs.length; i++ ) if( ! 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However, two decades ago, he was merely the mayor of San Francisco. During Newsom&#8217;s political ascent, John MacArthur was dedicated to his congregation at Grace Community Church in Sun Valley and continues to preach today. Their paths crossed during a debate moderated by Larry King regarding differing moral perspectives on same-sex marriage\u2014a topic that remains pertinent today.<\/p>\n<p>Newsom compared opposition to same-sex marriage with resistance to interracial marriage while asserting his credentials as a &#8220;practicing Catholic.&#8221; He argued that extending love and monogamy to same-sex families does not diminish the sanctity of traditional marriages. In response, MacArthur posed a straightforward question about whether Newsom believes the Bible is God&#8217;s Word. Newsom hesitated but eventually acknowledged some respect for it.<\/p>\n<p>MacArthur pointed out biblical teachings on marriage being defined as one man and one woman for life and referenced Old Testament laws regarding sexual sins. He emphasized that while these sins are forgivable through Jesus&#8217; sacrifice, they are serious matters affecting civilization&#8217;s foundation. When King questioned their relevance to state governance, MacArthur sought clarity on how Newsom\u2019s claims align with his faith.<\/p>\n<p>Despite this exchange favoring MacArthur&#8217;s arguments from a Christian perspective, Newsom has since advanced cultural changes opposing traditional Christian values related not only to homosexuality but also transgender issues and abortion. Each year sees more biblical truths discarded in California in favor of new ideologies deemed progressive by its leaders.<\/p>\n<p>Today\u2019s California faces both physical devastation from fires and spiritual turmoil where actions like abortion or gender reassignment occur under an overreaching government failing to maintain order or affordability. The core issue lies in leadership prioritizing their authority over divine principles\u2014an approach contributing significantly to California&#8217;s struggles. Perhaps revisiting past values could offer some hope for improvement at this critical juncture<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":2392399,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_mo_disable_npp":"","fifu_image_url":"https:\/\/www.westernjournal.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/John-MacArthur-vs-Gavin-Newsom.jpg","fifu_image_alt":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[5469,32742,48802,37043,32274],"class_list":["post-2392398","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","tag-flashback","tag-gavin-newsom","tag-john-macarthur","tag-political-debate","tag-religious-freedom"],"fifu_image_url":"https:\/\/www.westernjournal.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/John-MacArthur-vs-Gavin-Newsom.jpg","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2392398","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2392398"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2392398\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2392402,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2392398\/revisions\/2392402"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/2392399"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2392398"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2392398"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2392398"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}