{"id":2360196,"date":"2024-10-27T12:28:02","date_gmt":"2024-10-27T16:28:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/vance-cnn-interview-gets-heated-over-trump-fascism-claims-thats-really-your-argument-washington-examiner\/"},"modified":"2024-10-27T12:30:07","modified_gmt":"2024-10-27T16:30:07","slug":"vance-cnn-interview-gets-heated-over-trump-fascism-claims-thats-really-your-argument-washington-examiner","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/vance-cnn-interview-gets-heated-over-trump-fascism-claims-thats-really-your-argument-washington-examiner\/","title":{"rendered":"Vance CNN interview gets heated over Trump fascism claims: \u2018That\u2019s really your argument?\u2019 &#8211; Washington Examiner"},"content":{"rendered":"<aside class=\"mashsb-container mashsb-main mashsb-stretched\"><div class=\"mashsb-box\"><div class=\"mashsb-count mash-medium\" style=\"&quot;\"><div class=\"counts mashsbcount\">32<\/div><span class=\"mashsb-sharetext\">SHARES<\/span><\/div><div class=\"mashsb-buttons\"><a class=\"mashicon-facebook mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.conservativenewsdaily.net%2Fbreaking-news%2Fvance-cnn-interview-gets-heated-over-trump-fascism-claims-thats-really-your-argument-washington-examiner%2F\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Facebook<\/span><\/a><a class=\"mashicon-twitter mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/intent\/tweet?text=&amp;url=https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/?p=2360196&amp;via=ConservNewsDly\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Twitter<\/span><\/a><a class=\"mashicon-subscribe mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"#\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Subscribe<\/span><\/a><div class=\"onoffswitch2 mash-medium mashsb-noshadow\" style=\"display:none\"><\/div><\/div>\n            <\/div>\n                <div style=\"clear:both\"><\/div><\/aside>\n            <!-- Share buttons by mashshare.net - Version: 4.0.47--><p>During a recent heated interview\u2063 on CNN\u2019s *State of the Union*, Senator J.D. Vance \u2063(R-OH) clashed\u2062 with \u200banchor Jake Tapper over criticisms directed at former President Donald Trump, particularly allegations of authoritarianism and fascism. The discussion was sparked by comments from former White House chief of staff John Kelly, who stated that Trump fits a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/the-top-science-backed-benefits-of-strength-training\/\" title=\"The Top Science-Backed Benefits of Strength Training\">general definition<\/a> of fascism. Tapper questioned Vance&#8217;s defense of Trump, prompting laughter when Vance insisted that critics,\u2064 including Kelly, were simply pushing their own agendas.<\/p>\n<p>Throughout \u200cthe interview,\u200c Vance argued that former officials disavowing Trump were not providing an <a href=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/ca-lawmakers-advance-bill-to-replace-toppled-statue-of-catholic-saint-with-native-american-monument\/\" title=\"CA Lawmakers Advance Bill To Replace Toppled Statue Of Catholic Saint With Native American Monument\">honest assessment<\/a> \u200dand suggested they were motivated by \u200ca desire for\u2063 military conflict. Tapper pushed back by questioning why Vance believed these individuals were not genuine conservatives and pointed out the\u2062 contradiction in their criticisms, given \u200cthat many agreed with \u2063Trump\u2019s \u200dpolicies but disagreed with his style and approach to leadership.<\/p>\n<p>Despite Tapper&#8217;s probing questions and humorous interjections, Vance maintained his stance, asserting that the critiques from former <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/3YuVZYV\">administration officials stemmed<\/a> \u2063from their inability to control Trump rather than substantive policy disagreements. The interview highlighted the ongoing \u200ddivisions within the Republican Party regarding Trump\u2019s leadership and the implications\u2062 for the\u200b upcoming election.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"readmore\">\n    <button onclick=\"showReadMore()\" id=\"readmorebtn\">Read more&#8230;<\/button>\n<\/p>\n<hr id=\"line\">\n<span id=\"more\"><\/p>\n<p><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><\/p>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\"><span class=\"tdb-mobile-menu-button\"><i class=\"tdb-mobile-menu-icon td-icon-mobile\"><\/i><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\"><span class=\"tdb-header-search-button-mob dropdown-toggle\" data-toggle=\"dropdown\"><i class=\"tdb-mobile-search-icon td-icon-search\"><\/i><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\"><span class=\"tdb-mobile-menu-button\"><i class=\"tdb-mobile-menu-icon td-icon-mobile\"><\/i><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\">\n<div class=\"tdb-drop-down-search\" aria-labelledby=\"td-header-search-button\">\n<div class=\"tdb-drop-down-search-inner\">\n<form method=\"get\" class=\"tdb-search-form\" action=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonexaminer.com\/\"><\/form>\n<div class=\"tdb-aj-search\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonexaminer.com\/#\" role=\"button\" aria-label=\"Search\" class=\"tdb-head-search-btn dropdown-toggle\" data-toggle=\"dropdown\"><i class=\"tdb-search-icon td-icon-search\"><\/i><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\">\n<h1 class=\"tdb-title-text\">Vance CNN interview gets heated over Trump fascism claims: &lsquo;That&rsquo;s really your argument?&rsquo;<\/h1>\n<div><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-title-line\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\">\n<div id=\"Brid_1778550\" class=\"tpd-featured-video bridtv\"><\/div>\n<p>Sen. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonexaminer.com\/tag\/j.d.-vance\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"\">J.D. Vance<\/a> (R-OH) and CNN anchor Jake Tapper did not pull their punches during an interview that centered around recent criticisms of former President <a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonexaminer.com\/tag\/donald-trump\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"\">Donald Trump,<\/a> with Tapper at one point laughing at Vance&rsquo;s answer. <\/p>\n<div class=\"article-paywall\">\n<p>The interview comes as former <a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonexaminer.com\/tag\/trump-administration\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"\">Trump administration<\/a> officials are sounding the alarm over Trump&rsquo;s alleged authoritarian tendencies and while Trump himself continues to create controversy with increasingly inflammatory rhetoric while campaigning. Vance spent most of the interview on CNN&rsquo;s <em>State of the Union<\/em> was spent disagreeing with Tapper.<\/p>\n<p>Tapper asked Vance about comments from former White House chief of staff Gen. John Kelly, Trump&rsquo;s longest-serving chief of staff, who <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2024\/10\/22\/us\/politics\/john-kelly-trump-fitness-character.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"\">recently said<\/a> Trump &ldquo;falls into the general definition&rdquo; of fascist.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">TAPPER: They&rsquo;re all just going after Donald Trump because they want to send people into war? That&rsquo;s really your argument?<br \/>VANCE: Absolutely that&rsquo;s my argument.<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/jaketapper?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@jaketapper<\/a> presses <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JDVance?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@JDVance<\/a> over warnings from former Trump officials. Watch the full interview on <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/CNNSOTU?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@CNNSotu<\/a> at 9am ET. <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/XCNGCbXbjC\">pic.twitter.com\/XCNGCbXbjC<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; State of the Union (@CNNSOTU) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/CNNSOTU\/status\/1850313848236003767?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">October 26, 2024<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> <script data-cfasync=\"false\" src=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonexaminer.com\/cdn-cgi\/scripts\/5c5dd728\/cloudflare-static\/email-decode.min.js\"><\/script><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script>    <\/p>\n<p>Vance claimed that Kelly and other former Trump administration officials who have disavowed the former <a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonexaminer.com\/tag\/president\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"\">president<\/a> were not giving an &ldquo;honest account&rdquo; of Trump.<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;All of these people have this horribly damaged worldview, and they&rsquo;re all just going after Donald Trump because they want to send people into war? That&rsquo;s really your argument,&rdquo; Tapper asked.<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;Absolutely,&rdquo; Vance said.<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;These aren&rsquo;t conservative <a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonexaminer.com\/tag\/Republicans\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"\">Republicans<\/a> who are concerned about Donald Trump? They&rsquo;re not? That&rsquo;s not true?&rdquo; Tapper asked.<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;All of these people, Jake, they came into office thinking that they could control Donald Trump, that when he said he wanted peace in the world,&rdquo; Vance said.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Tapper laughed then, saying, &ldquo;Mike Pence thought he could control Donald Trump? Really?&rdquo;<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">.<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/jaketapper?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@jaketapper<\/a>: &ldquo;[John Kelly] agrees with Trump on most policy. He disagrees with Trump on how Trump views his role and the fascism and the authoritarianism.&#8221;<br \/> <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JDVance?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@JDVance<\/a>: &#8220;I don&#8217;t buy that. Jake.&rdquo; <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/KUOvKmap9W\">pic.twitter.com\/KUOvKmap9W<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; State of the Union (@CNNSOTU) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/CNNSOTU\/status\/1850525074786279469?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">October 27, 2024<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> <script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script>    <\/p>\n<p>Tapper also asked Vance why <a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonexaminer.com\/tag\/voting\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"\">voters<\/a> should not trust former Trump administration officials who have been outspoken in their concern of a second Trump presidency.<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;I actually think there&rsquo;s an interesting conversation here to have, Jake, which is, why does John Kelly not support Donald Trump? It&rsquo;s about policy, it&rsquo;s not about personality,&rdquo; Vance said.<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;He disagrees with Trump on how Trump views his role and his and the fascism and the authoritarianism,&rdquo; Tapper said, noting that Kelly agreed with the policies of the former president.<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;I don&rsquo;t buy that, Jake, I don&rsquo;t buy that,&rdquo; Vance responded.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">&ldquo;So you made it up&hellip;&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>Watch <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/jaketapper?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@jaketapper<\/a> grill <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JDVance?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@JDVance<\/a> over warnings about fascism from former Trump officials ahead of November&#8217;s election. <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/bgsLBwASoS\">pic.twitter.com\/bgsLBwASoS<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; State of the Union (@CNNSOTU) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/CNNSOTU\/status\/1850525394287390781?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">October 27, 2024<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> <script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script>    <\/p>\n<p>Vance has claimed without evidence that Kelly is in communication with Vice President Kamala Harris&rsquo;s campaign, claiming the &ldquo;fascist&rdquo; comments are part of Harris&rsquo;s campaign strategy. Tapper said he had spoken with Kelly&rsquo;s team and Harris&rsquo;s campaign team and that there was no communication between them. Vance said he was &ldquo;highly skeptical of that.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;So you made it up?&rdquo; Tapper asked.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/washingtonexaminer.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"\"><strong><\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;No, I said that the American media and the American <a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonexaminer.com\/tag\/Democratic-Party\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"\">Democratic Party<\/a> apparatus works a certain way. If it comes out that John Kelly never spoke with a person in the Kamala Harris orbit,&rdquo; Vance said before Tapper cut him off to say he was telling Vance the evidence he was, in fact, looking for.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Vance said he still did not believe Tapper because Tapper only had &ldquo;second-hand conversations.&rdquo; Vance said he would be &ldquo;happy&rdquo; to apologize to Kelly for misstating how he gave the news to the <em>Atlantic<\/em>, the outlet that broke the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/politics\/archive\/2024\/10\/trump-military-generals-hitler\/680327\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"\">story<\/a> in which Kelly likened Trump to Adolf Hitler.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p> <script>!function(){var g=window;g.googletag=g.googletag||{},g.googletag.cmd=g.googletag.cmd||[],g.googletag.cmd.push(function(){g.googletag.pubads().setTargeting(\"has-featured-video\",\"true\")})}();<\/script><script>var _bp=_bp||[];_bp.push({\"div\":\"Brid_1778550\",\"obj\":{\"id\":\"27789\",\"width\":\"1280\",\"height\":\"720\",\"stickyDirection\":\"below\",\"video\":\"1778550\"}});<\/script><script defer src=\"https:\/\/services.brid.tv\/player\/build\/brid.min.js\"><\/script><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\"><\/div>\n<p><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Vance and Tapper clash in heated CNN interview on Trump<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2910,"featured_media":2360198,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_mo_disable_npp":"","fifu_image_url":"https:\/\/www.washingtonexaminer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/JD-Vance-2.webp","fifu_image_alt":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[538],"tags":[36326,43815,3634,15469],"class_list":["post-2360196","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-washington-examiner","tag-cnn-interview","tag-fascism-claims","tag-trump","tag-vance"],"fifu_image_url":"https:\/\/www.washingtonexaminer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/JD-Vance-2.webp","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2360196","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2910"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2360196"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2360196\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/2360198"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2360196"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2360196"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2360196"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}