{"id":2348615,"date":"2024-10-02T11:59:00","date_gmt":"2024-10-02T15:59:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/battleground-state-focus-group-overwhelmingly-declares-winner-of-vp-debate\/"},"modified":"2024-10-02T12:01:02","modified_gmt":"2024-10-02T16:01:02","slug":"battleground-state-focus-group-overwhelmingly-declares-winner-of-vp-debate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/battleground-state-focus-group-overwhelmingly-declares-winner-of-vp-debate\/","title":{"rendered":"Battleground State Focus Group Overwhelmingly Declares Winner of VP Debate"},"content":{"rendered":"<aside class=\"mashsb-container mashsb-main mashsb-stretched\"><div class=\"mashsb-box\"><div class=\"mashsb-count mash-medium\" style=\"&quot;\"><div class=\"counts mashsbcount\">20<\/div><span class=\"mashsb-sharetext\">SHARES<\/span><\/div><div class=\"mashsb-buttons\"><a class=\"mashicon-facebook mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.conservativenewsdaily.net%2Fbreaking-news%2Fbattleground-state-focus-group-overwhelmingly-declares-winner-of-vp-debate%2F\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Facebook<\/span><\/a><a class=\"mashicon-twitter mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/intent\/tweet?text=&amp;url=https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/?p=2348615&amp;via=ConservNewsDly\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Twitter<\/span><\/a><a class=\"mashicon-subscribe mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"#\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Subscribe<\/span><\/a><div class=\"onoffswitch2 mash-medium mashsb-noshadow\" style=\"display:none\"><\/div><\/div>\n            <\/div>\n                <div style=\"clear:both\"><\/div><\/aside>\n            <!-- Share buttons by mashshare.net - Version: 4.0.47--><p>In a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/if-kamala-has-great-plans-why-hasnt-she-implemented-them\/\" title=\"If Kamala Has Great Plans, Why Hasn&#039;t She Implemented Them?\">recent \u200dvice presidential debate<\/a>, Republican J.D. Vance \u2064significantly impressed a focus group of battleground\u200d state voters, achieving\u2063 a 12-2 victory \u2062over Democrat Tim Walz, as noted \u2063by pollster Frank Luntz. Prior \u2062to the debate, \u200dmost group members were\u200b not leaning toward Vance\u2062 or the \u2064Republican ticket. However, immediately after the debate began, a majority began to \u200bview Vance as \u2064the winner, highlighted\u2062 by an\u200d early indication of 10-3 \u2062in his favor at the first commercial break.\u200d This strong \u200dshowing \u2063markedly contrasted with other polls, \u2064which\u200c indicated a divided \u2064audience and reflected partisan\u200d preferences \u200bmore than \u200cobjective judgments of debate performance.<\/p>\n<p>Despite the apparent bias of debate moderators, Vance&#8217;s ability to respond effectively was recognized\u200d by the focus group, leading to \u2062their unanimous agreement that \u200che had triumphed despite starting \u2062with limited support. while immediate surveys indicated differing opinions, Luntz&#8217;s focus group showcased Vance\u2019s ability to\u2063 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/trump-praises-big-win-for-tommy-in-tuberville-holds\/\" title=\"Trump hails Tuberville&#039;s victory as a major win for Tommy.\">sway undecided \u200bvoters<\/a>, which \u2064could have implications for the upcoming elections in critical states like \u2062Arizona, Pennsylvania, and Georgia.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"readmore\">\n    <button onclick=\"showReadMore()\" id=\"readmorebtn\">Read more&#8230;<\/button>\n<\/p>\n<hr id=\"line\">\n<span id=\"more\"><\/p>\n<p><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><\/p>\n<section> <script>console.log(\"ad slot (AC1)\")<\/script><script>console.log(\"ad slot (IC1)\")<\/script><script>console.log(\"ad slot (IC2)\")<\/script><script>console.log(\"ad slot (IC3)\")<\/script><script>console.log(\"ad slot (IC4)\")<\/script><script>console.log(\"ad slot (REP_0)\")<\/script><script>console.log(\"ad slot (REP_1)\")<\/script><\/p>\n<p>If a focus group of battleground state voters is any indication, Republican J.D. Vance won the field in Tuesday&rsquo;s vice presidential debate &mdash; and it wasn&rsquo;t even close.<\/p>\n<p>Pollster Frank Luntz, a political veteran, convened a panel of voters from the states most hotly contested in the November election to view <a href=\"https:\/\/www.westernjournal.com\/watch-jd-vance-leaves-tim-walz-alone-awkward-moment-debate-even-starts\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the showdown<\/a> between the Ohio senator and Democrat Tim Walz.<\/p>\n<p>(Those states include Arizona, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Michigan, Nevada, and Georgia.)<\/p>\n<p>And while the majority weren&rsquo;t supporting Vance&rsquo;s Republican ticket at the beginning of the debate, by the end their opinion of the two debaters&rsquo; efforts was clear.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">Final focus group vote tonight after the <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/VPDebate?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">#VPDebate<\/a>: 12-2 in favor of JD Vance <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/LgahO2za7C\">pic.twitter.com\/LgahO2za7C<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Frank Luntz (@FrankLuntz) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/FrankLuntz\/status\/1841310671281197280?\">October 2, 2024<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p> <script type=\"text\/javascript\"> \t\t\tif ( getCookie( \"ff_subbed\" ) ) { \t\t\t\tdocument.getElementById(\"stnvideo\").remove() \t\t\t} \t\t<\/script> <\/p>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;At the first commercial break, my #VPDebate focus group says by a 10-3 margin that JD Vance is winning,&rdquo; Luntz wrote in a post on the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/the-new-acting-attorney-general-jeff-rosen-recently-wrote-an-essay-on-foreign-influence-in-us-elections-this-tells-us-a-little-about-his-knowledge-of-whats-going-on-today\/\" title=\"The New Acting Attorney General Jeff Rosen Recently Wrote an Essay on Foreign Influence in US Elections \u2013 This Tells Us A Little About His Knowledge of What\u2019s Going On Today\">social media platform<\/a> X early in the proceedings. &ldquo;That is a big deal since only 5 of them were leaning toward Trump-Vance when the debate began.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>Then came the verdict:<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;Final focus group vote tonight after the #VPDebate: 12-2 in favor of JD Vance,&rdquo; Luntz wrote in a post at the debate&rsquo;s conclusion.<\/p>\n<p>The resounding Vance victory in the Luntz group was in stark contrast to other instant surveys published after the debate, which showed respondents as evenly divided on who won.<\/p>\n<p>A roundup of flash polls published by the liberal website <a href=\"https:\/\/www.yahoo.com\/news\/first-flash-polls-shock-verdict-051116527.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Daily Beast<\/a> called the results a &ldquo;virtual draw.&rdquo; But that likely reflected partisan opinion overall, rather than actual judgments of the candidates on Tuesday.<\/p>\n<p>The website <a href=\"https:\/\/www.politico.com\/news\/2024\/10\/02\/politico-snap-poll-division-debate-00182131\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Politico<\/a> found a 50-50 split among the viewers it surveyed. But Politico itself acknowledged that that probably had more to do with the preferences of the viewers than the performances on the stage.<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;The survey found that party identification strongly shaped the perceptions of people who watched the debate: Democrats overwhelmingly sided with Walz, while Republicans picked Vance as the winner,&rdquo; Politico wrote.<\/p>\n<p>The article noted that &ldquo;independents&rdquo; it surveyed gave the edge to Walz, the current governor of Minnesota, but, unlike Luntz, failed to note how those &ldquo;independents&rdquo; were leaning before the contest began.<\/p>\n<p>If the Luntz panel really had only five members leaning toward the Republican ticket headed by former Presdent Donald Trump, Vance&rsquo;s 12-2 win means he had an uphill battle from the beginning &mdash; and that he came out on top anyway.<\/p>\n<p>Certainly, commenters on Luntz&rsquo;s post thought so.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">How was it not 14-0?<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; CEO Branding Expert (@Ceo_Branding) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Ceo_Branding\/status\/1841311822126662120?\">October 2, 2024<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-conversation=\"none\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">Thank you, <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/FrankLuntz?\">@FrankLuntz<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Complete domination by Vance, in spite of the bias moderators.<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; ManchurianFiles (@Democrat_crimes) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Democrat_crimes\/status\/1841312029258182955?\">October 2, 2024<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-conversation=\"none\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">Smart group of undecided. Vance will definitely be a big asset to Trump. I think the partnership will be great for your country!<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Monica (@monibucci) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/monibucci\/status\/1841313065087774801?\">October 2, 2024<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>As in the Trump debate with President Kamala Harris, where the moderators&rsquo; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.westernjournal.com\/megyn-kelly-torches-debate-moderators-exactly-bosses-wanted-trump\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">bias was clear<\/a>, it wasn&rsquo;t just voters&rsquo; preconceptions Vance was battling.&nbsp; He <a href=\"https:\/\/www.westernjournal.com\/vp-debate-moderators-quickly-come-fire-helping-tim-walz-even-worse-abc\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">had moderators<\/a> to deal with, too.<\/p>\n<p>But viewers could see that. And they could see him responding <a href=\"https:\/\/www.westernjournal.com\/jd-vance-confronts-moderators-repeatedly-break-rules\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">in real time<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>And in the end, it wasn&rsquo;t even close.<\/p>\n<div style=\"position: relative;\">\n<div class=\"ff-fancy-header-container\">  <\/div>\n<div class=\"entry-submit-correction inner-content\">\n<div class=\"correction-form\">\n<form style=\"display: none;\">\n<div class=\"sc-name-field\"> <label>* Name<\/label> <br \/> <input type=\"text\" name=\"name\" required> <\/div>\n<div class=\"sc--field\"> <label>* <\/label> <br \/> <input type=\"text\" name=\"\" required> <\/div>\n<p> <label>* Message<\/label> <br \/> <textarea name=\"message\" required><\/textarea>  <\/p>\n<div class=\"required-message\" style=\"display: none; padding-bottom: 15px;\">* All fields are required.<\/div>\n<p> <input type=\"submit\" value=\"Submit\" onclick=\"event.preventDefault(); firefly_sc();\">  <\/p>\n<div class=\"firefly-sc-confirm\" style=\"display: none;\">Success!<\/div>\n<\/p><\/form>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p> <script> \t\t\tfunction firefly_sc() { \t\t\t\tif( typeof window.captchaPublicKey==typeof undefined ){ \t\t\t\t\tconsole.error('window.captchaPublicKey is not defined'); \t\t\t\t} \t\t\t\tgrecaptcha.execute( window.captchaPublicKey, { action: 'submit_correction' } ).then( function( token ) { \t\t\t\t\tvar opts={ \t\t\t\t\t\taction:    'firefly_sc_submit', \t\t\t\t\t\tname:      document.querySelector( '.entry-submit-correction [name=\"name\"]' ).value, \t\t\t\t\t\t:     document.querySelector( '.entry-submit-correction [name=\"\"]' ).value, \t\t\t\t\t\tmessage:   document.querySelector( '.entry-submit-correction [name=\"message\"]' ).value, \t\t\t\t\t\tpost_id:   firefly_post_id, \t\t\t\t\t\tcap_token: token \t\t\t\t\t}  \t\t\t\t\tvar inputs=[ 'name', '', 'message' ];  \t\t\t\t\tfor( var i=0; i <inputs.length; i++ ) if( ! 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Vance decisively triumphed in Tuesday&#8217;s vice presidential debate against Democrat Tim Walz. Pollster Frank Luntz gathered this panel from states like Arizona, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Michigan, Nevada, and Georgia to assess the debate. Initially, most participants were not supporting Vance&#8217;s Republican ticket; however, by the end of the debate, their views had shifted significantly. The final vote from the focus group was 12-2 in favor of Vance.<\/p>\n<p>Luntz noted that at the first commercial break, his group indicated a 10-3 lead for Vance despite only five members leaning towards Trump-Vance at the start. This strong showing contrasted with other immediate polls that suggested a more divided opinion among viewers regarding who won. A report by The Daily Beast described those results as nearly equal while Politico found a 50-50 split but acknowledged it reflected viewer preferences rather than performance.<\/p>\n<p>The survey revealed that party affiliation heavily influenced perceptions: Democrats favored Walz while Republicans supported Vance. Independents surveyed leaned towards Walz but did not clarify their initial inclinations before the debate began. Given that only five members initially supported Trump\u2019s ticket in Luntz&#8217;s panel and yet ended with a significant win for Vance indicates he overcame considerable odds during the debate.<\/p>\n<p>Commenters on Luntz\u2019s post expressed surprise at not having an even larger margin for Vance and praised his performance despite perceived moderator bias\u2014similar to what was seen in previous debates involving Trump and Kamala Harris\u2014showing viewers recognized his responses throughout the event<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":2348616,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_mo_disable_npp":"","fifu_image_url":"https:\/\/www.westernjournal.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/vance-awalz.jpg","fifu_image_alt":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[33651],"tags":[33002,33183,33017,35401,42160],"class_list":["post-2348615","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-the-western-journal","tag-battleground-states","tag-focus-group","tag-political-analysis","tag-vp-debate","tag-winner-declaration"],"fifu_image_url":"https:\/\/www.westernjournal.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/vance-awalz.jpg","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2348615","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2348615"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2348615\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/2348616"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2348615"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2348615"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2348615"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}