{"id":2344195,"date":"2024-09-21T07:41:01","date_gmt":"2024-09-21T11:41:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/gun-ban-trial-touches-on-banned-features-plaintiffs-say-facilitate-self-defense-washington-examiner\/"},"modified":"2024-09-21T07:42:43","modified_gmt":"2024-09-21T11:42:43","slug":"gun-ban-trial-touches-on-banned-features-plaintiffs-say-facilitate-self-defense-washington-examiner","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/gun-ban-trial-touches-on-banned-features-plaintiffs-say-facilitate-self-defense-washington-examiner\/","title":{"rendered":"Gun ban trial touches on banned features plaintiffs say facilitate self defense &#8211; Washington Examiner"},"content":{"rendered":"<aside class=\"mashsb-container mashsb-main mashsb-stretched\"><div class=\"mashsb-box\"><div class=\"mashsb-count mash-medium\" style=\"&quot;\"><div class=\"counts mashsbcount\">30<\/div><span class=\"mashsb-sharetext\">SHARES<\/span><\/div><div class=\"mashsb-buttons\"><a class=\"mashicon-facebook mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.conservativenewsdaily.net%2Fbreaking-news%2Fgun-ban-trial-touches-on-banned-features-plaintiffs-say-facilitate-self-defense-washington-examiner%2F\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Facebook<\/span><\/a><a class=\"mashicon-twitter mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/intent\/tweet?text=&amp;url=https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/?p=2344195&amp;via=ConservNewsDly\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Twitter<\/span><\/a><a class=\"mashicon-subscribe mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"#\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Subscribe<\/span><\/a><div class=\"onoffswitch2 mash-medium mashsb-noshadow\" style=\"display:none\"><\/div><\/div>\n            <\/div>\n                <div style=\"clear:both\"><\/div><\/aside>\n            <!-- Share buttons by mashshare.net - Version: 4.0.47--><p>The \u2062article\u2062 discusses a recent \u2062trial\u200b concerning Illinois&#8217; ban on certain firearms \u200band magazine features,\u200b highlighting the debate over the legality\u200d and\u2063 implications of such bans. The trial focused on the similarities and\u2063 differences\u200b between banned \u2062<a href=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/biden-to-congress-enact-major-restrictions-on-constitutionally-protected-second-amendment-rights\/\" title=\"Biden To Congress: Enact Major Restrictions On Constitutionally Protected Second Amendment Rights\">semi-automatic firearms<\/a> and \u2063<a href=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/marine-veteran-held-hostage-in-venezuela-faces-trial\/\" title=\"Marine Veteran Held Hostage in Venezuela Faces Trial\">military-grade weapons<\/a>. Plaintiffs\u200b contended that features like flash suppressors enhance \u2064self-defense capabilities by allowing better visibility\u2062 in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/your-car-stores-your-text-messages-law-enforcement-can-retrieve-them-anytime-following-federally-rejected-lawsuit\/\" title=\"Law enforcement can access your car&#039;s text messages despite a failed lawsuit\">low-light conditions<\/a>, while state attorneys argued they could facilitate misuse. Additionally, discussions addressed attachments like pistol grips and collapsible stocks, which plaintiffs claimed improve safety and control for various users.\u2064 The outcomes of this trial may influence ongoing lawsuits related \u200bto the prohibition of firearm silencers.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"readmore\">\n    <button onclick=\"showReadMore()\" id=\"readmorebtn\">Read more&#8230;<\/button>\n<\/p>\n<hr id=\"line\">\n<span id=\"more\"><\/p>\n<p><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><\/p>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\"><span class=\"tdb-mobile-menu-button\"><i class=\"tdb-mobile-menu-icon td-icon-mobile\"><\/i><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\"><span class=\"tdb-header-search-button-mob dropdown-toggle\" data-toggle=\"dropdown\"><i class=\"tdb-mobile-search-icon td-icon-search\"><\/i><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\"><span class=\"tdb-mobile-menu-button\"><i class=\"tdb-mobile-menu-icon td-icon-mobile\"><\/i><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\">\n<div class=\"tdb-drop-down-search\" aria-labelledby=\"td-header-search-button\">\n<div class=\"tdb-drop-down-search-inner\">\n<form method=\"get\" class=\"tdb-search-form\" action=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonexaminer.com\/\"><\/form>\n<div class=\"tdb-aj-search\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonexaminer.com\/#\" role=\"button\" aria-label=\"Search\" class=\"tdb-head-search-btn dropdown-toggle\" data-toggle=\"dropdown\"><i class=\"tdb-search-icon td-icon-search\"><\/i><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\">\n<h1 class=\"tdb-title-text\">Gun ban trial touches on banned features plaintiffs say facilitate self defense<\/h1>\n<div><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-title-line\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\">\n<div id=\"Brid_1765936\" class=\"tpd-featured-video bridtv\"><\/div>\n<p>(The Center Square) &ndash; While the bench trial for Illinois&rsquo; gun and magazine ban is over, the reverberations could impact a separate lawsuit against banning firearm silencers.<\/p>\n<div class=\"article-paywall\">\n<p>Litigants in the trial that wrapped up Thursday argued over the difference and similarities of now banned semi-automatic only firearms and military rifles that go full auto or burst. Plaintiffs worked to address the issues raised by the Seventh Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals that sided with the state on preliminary grounds last year, saying semi-automatic firearms are too similar to military firearms and can be banned.<\/p>\n<p>Also debated during the bench trial for Barnett v. Raoul was the use of flash suppressors, which the Illinois law bans. Plaintiffs&rsquo; witnesses discussed how those help the shooter maintain better eyesight when firing a gun in a self defense situation.<\/p>\n<p>Defending the ban, attorneys for the state argued that also makes it easier for someone to shoot while in a dark movie theater.<\/p>\n<p>Dane Harrel, a lead plaintiff in one of the consolidated cases, said egregious and unlawful use is possible, something that speaks to the shooter&rsquo;s intent.<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;But for a homeowner, for a business owner or a private citizen that&rsquo;s trying to protect their life or their family&rsquo;s life or those around them, then obviously there&rsquo;s utility,&rdquo; Harrel said.<\/p>\n<p>There was also substantial discussion about other various banned attachments like pistol grips, an attachment plaintiffs argued gives the shooter better and safer control of aim, or collapsible stocks plaintiffs say allow for large and small statured individuals to handle the same rifle in self defense scenarios.<\/p>\n<p>Discussion also focused on threaded barrels banned by Illinois law. Threaded barrels can be used to attach things like suppressors to decrease the sound of a gun firing.<\/p>\n<p>Questioning a plaintiffs&rsquo; witness, Judge Stephen McGlynn talked about how suppressors may be needed for others in the house to safely hear if someone confronts intruders.<\/p>\n<p>Mark Smith, author and host of Four Boxes Diner,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=E4yod19tfVc\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>said<\/strong><\/a>&nbsp;on his YouTube channel that could impact a separate case in the Southern District of Illinois federal court challenging silencer bans.<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;I&rsquo;m betting that Judge McGlynn has connected the dots and realizes that indeed suppressors facilitate our self defense, therefore they&rsquo;re arms, therefore the text is satisfied, therefore the in-common-use test applies, therefore the government bears the burden to show this stuff is not in common use,&rdquo; Smith said.<\/p>\n<p>Gun ban litigants have until Oct. 21 to file remaining briefs before a ruling from McGlynn.<\/p>\n<p>The silencer ban case was transferred from McGlynn to Judge David Dugan, consolidated with similar cases in Morse et al v. Raoul et al and is still pending.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p> <script data-cfasync=\"false\" src=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonexaminer.com\/cdn-cgi\/scripts\/5c5dd728\/cloudflare-static\/email-decode.min.js\"><\/script><script>!function(){var g=window;g.googletag=g.googletag||{},g.googletag.cmd=g.googletag.cmd||[],g.googletag.cmd.push(function(){g.googletag.pubads().setTargeting(\"has-featured-video\",\"true\")})}();<\/script><script>var _bp=_bp||[];_bp.push({\"div\":\"Brid_1765936\",\"obj\":{\"id\":\"27789\",\"width\":\"1280\",\"height\":\"720\",\"stickyDirection\":\"below\",\"video\":\"1765936\"}});<\/script><script defer src=\"https:\/\/services.brid.tv\/player\/build\/brid.min.js\"><\/script><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\"><\/div>\n<p><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Gun ban trial highlights features plaintiffs claim aid in self-defense (The Center Square) \u2013 Although the bench trial concerning Illinois&#8217; gun and magazine ban has concluded, its implications may influence a different lawsuit regarding the prohibition of firearm silencers. During the trial that ended on Thursday, participants debated the distinctions and similarities between currently banned semi-automatic firearms and military rifles capable of fully automatic or burst fire. Plaintiffs aimed to address concerns raised by the Seventh Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals, which previously sided with the state on preliminary matters, asserting that semi-automatic firearms are sufficiently similar to military weapons to warrant a ban. The bench trial for Barnett v. Raoul also examined flash suppressors, which are prohibited under Illinois law; plaintiffs&#8217; witnesses explained how these devices help shooters maintain visibility during self-defense situations. In defense of the ban, state attorneys contended that such features could enable easier shooting in dark environments like movie theaters. Dane Harrel, a lead plaintiff in one of the consolidated cases, noted that while misuse is possible\u2014reflecting on a shooter&#8217;s intent\u2014there is clear utility for homeowners or business owners trying to protect themselves or their families. Additionally, there was significant discussion about other banned accessories such as pistol grips\u2014which plaintiffs argued enhance control and safety when aiming\u2014and collapsible stocks that allow individuals of varying sizes to handle rifles effectively in self-defense scenarios. The conversation also touched upon threaded barrels banned by Illinois law; these can be used for attaching suppressors to reduce gunfire noise. Judge Stephen McGlynn questioned a plaintiff&#8217;s witness about how suppressors might help others in a household hear if intruders are present. Mark Smith, an author and host at Four Boxes Diner on YouTube, suggested this could affect another case challenging silencer bans in Southern District of Illinois federal court: \u201cI believe Judge McGlynn has made connections indicating that suppressors aid our self-defense efforts; thus they qualify as arms under legal definitions.\u201d Gun ban litigants have until October 21 to submit remaining briefs before Judge McGlynn issues his ruling. The case regarding silencer bans has been reassigned from McGlynn to Judge David Dugan and is still pending alongside similar cases consolidated under Morse et al v. 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