{"id":2339785,"date":"2024-09-11T14:45:01","date_gmt":"2024-09-11T18:45:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/abc-news-debate-host-claimed-crime-is-down-using-incomplete-data-washington-examiner\/"},"modified":"2024-09-11T14:50:18","modified_gmt":"2024-09-11T18:50:18","slug":"abc-news-debate-host-claimed-crime-is-down-using-incomplete-data-washington-examiner","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/abc-news-debate-host-claimed-crime-is-down-using-incomplete-data-washington-examiner\/","title":{"rendered":"ABC News debate host claimed crime is down using incomplete data &#8211; Washington Examiner"},"content":{"rendered":"<aside class=\"mashsb-container mashsb-main mashsb-stretched\"><div class=\"mashsb-box\"><div class=\"mashsb-count mash-medium\" style=\"float:left\"><div class=\"counts mashsbcount\">28<\/div><span class=\"mashsb-sharetext\">SHARES<\/span><\/div><div class=\"mashsb-buttons\"><a class=\"mashicon-facebook mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.conservativenewsdaily.net%2Fbreaking-news%2Fabc-news-debate-host-claimed-crime-is-down-using-incomplete-data-washington-examiner%2F\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Facebook<\/span><\/a><a class=\"mashicon-twitter mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/intent\/tweet?text=&amp;url=https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/?p=2339785&amp;via=ConservNewsDly\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Twitter<\/span><\/a><a class=\"mashicon-subscribe mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"#\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Subscribe<\/span><\/a><div class=\"onoffswitch2 mash-medium mashsb-noshadow\" style=\"display:none\"><\/div><\/div>\n            <\/div>\n                <div style=\"clear:both\"><\/div><\/aside>\n            <!-- Share buttons by mashshare.net - Version: 4.0.47--><p>During a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/biden-quickly-turns-desantis-debate-comment-into-a-campaign-ad\/\" title=\"Biden swiftly transforms DeSantis debate remark into campaign ad.\">recent presidential debate<\/a>, former President Donald Trump claimed\u200b that crime rates in the United States are rising, particularly due to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/hunter-biden-investigation-six-takeaways-from-the-irs-whistleblower-hearing\/\" title=\"Key points from the IRS whistleblower hearing on Hunter Biden investigation.\">crimes\u200d committed<\/a> by illegal migrants. \u200dHowever, moderator \u2062David\u2064 Muir countered\u2063 this assertion by referencing\u2062 a recent FBI\u200d report indicating a 15% \u2064decrease in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/heather-mac-donald-savage-crimes-no-longer-have-consequences-civilization-breaking-down-in-slow-motion\/\" title=\"Heather Mac Donald: \u2018Savage\u2019 Crimes No Longer Have Consequences \u2014 Civilization \u2018Breaking Down\u2019 in \u2018Slow-Motion\u2019\">violent crime nationwide<\/a> \u200din early \u200c2024 compared to the previous year. Trump responded by accusing the FBI of excluding data from cities with the highest crime\u200c rates, suggesting that the statistics are misleading. This issue stems from changes the\u2064 FBI made to its <a href=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/communist-chinas-tiktok-dethrones-google-as-worlds-most-popular-domain\/\" title=\"Communist China&#039;s TikTok Dethrones Google as World&#039;s Most Popular Domain\">data collection methods<\/a> in 2021, which affected the inclusion of major\u2062 urban areas in crime reporting. Consequently,\u2063 while some cities with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/mccarthy-house-gop-signal-support-for-police-in-midst-of-defunding-calls\/\" title=\"McCarthy, House GOP Signal Support for Police in Midst of Defunding Calls\">rising crime rates<\/a> are accounted for, others, like \u200dLos Angeles,\u200c remain missing from the data, complicating the overall crime rate narrative.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"readmore\">\n    <button onclick=\"showReadMore()\" id=\"readmorebtn\">Read more&#8230;<\/button>\n<\/p>\n<hr id=\"line\">\n<span id=\"more\"><\/p>\n<p><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><\/p>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\"><span class=\"tdb-mobile-menu-button\"><i class=\"tdb-mobile-menu-icon td-icon-mobile\"><\/i><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\"><span class=\"tdb-header-search-button-mob dropdown-toggle\" data-toggle=\"dropdown\"><i class=\"tdb-mobile-search-icon td-icon-search\"><\/i><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\"><span class=\"tdb-mobile-menu-button\"><i class=\"tdb-mobile-menu-icon td-icon-mobile\"><\/i><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\">\n<div class=\"tdb-drop-down-search\" aria-labelledby=\"td-header-search-button\">\n<div class=\"tdb-drop-down-search-inner\">\n<form method=\"get\" class=\"tdb-search-form\" action=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonexaminer.com\/\"><\/form>\n<div class=\"tdb-aj-search\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonexaminer.com\/#\" role=\"button\" aria-label=\"Search\" class=\"tdb-head-search-btn dropdown-toggle\" data-toggle=\"dropdown\"><i class=\"tdb-search-icon td-icon-search\"><\/i><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\">\n<h1 class=\"tdb-title-text\">ABC News debate host claimed crime is down using incomplete data<\/h1>\n<div><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-title-line\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\">\n<div id=\"Brid_1758438\" class=\"tpd-featured-video bridtv\"><\/div>\n<p>Former President <a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonexaminer.com\/tag\/donald-trump\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"Donald Trump\">Donald Trump<\/a>&rsquo;s claim during the presidential <a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonexaminer.com\/live-blog\/2024-presidential-debate-live-updates-trump-harris-abc\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"Donald Trump\">debate<\/a> Tuesday that crime rates in the United States have risen was swiftly met with a fact-check by moderator David Muir, who pointed to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonexaminer.com\/restoring-america\/fairness-justice\/2953562\/bad-data-from-the-fbi-mislead-about-crime\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title>data<\/a> that is missing information.<\/p>\n<div class=\"article-paywall\">\n<p>Trump lamented crimes committed by migrants living in the United States illegally during an exchange that followed a question about immigration.<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;All over the world, crime is down, all over the world, except here. Crime here is up and through the roof, despite their fraudulent statements that they made,&rdquo; Trump said. &ldquo;Crime in this country is through the roof, and we have a new form of crime. It&rsquo;s called migrant crime, and it&rsquo;s happening at levels that nobody thought possible.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>Muir, who is an ABC News anchor, interjected and pointed to a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.fbi.gov\/news\/press-releases\/fbi-releases-2024-quarterly-crime-report-and-use-of-force-data-update?utm_medium=email&amp;utm_source=govdelivery\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title>report<\/a> from the FBI this year that said violent crime nationwide was down 15% in the first quarter of 2024 compared to one year ago.<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;President Trump, as you know, the FBI says, overall, violent crime is actually coming down in this country,&rdquo; Muir said.<\/p>\n<p>Trump shot back that the FBI&rsquo;s statistics were missing cities with the &ldquo;worst crime.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;Excuse me, the FBI &mdash; they were defrauding statements,&rdquo; Trump said. &ldquo;They didn&rsquo;t include the worst cities. They didn&rsquo;t include the cities with the worst crime. It was a fraud.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\"> <iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"LIVE: ABC News Presidential Debate: Harris and Trump meet in Philadelphia\" width=\"696\" height=\"392\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/kRh6598RmHM?start=2081&amp;feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe> <\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<p>Trump&rsquo;s remark was partially true. The FBI changed the way it gathered national crime data in 2021, temporarily upending its Uniform Crime Report program, through which it releases quarterly statistics about crime in the U.S.<\/p>\n<p>This initially resulted in some major U.S. police departments, including in New York City and Los Angeles, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.themarshallproject.org\/2023\/07\/13\/fbi-crime-rates-data-gap-nibrs\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title>failing<\/a> to comply with the FBI&rsquo;s changed method. This meant that urban areas, where crime is more prevalent, were left out of the statistics.<\/p>\n<p>The FBI&rsquo;s first quarter data this year is still in a preliminary state, and while many major cities are now included in that data, some still are not. Los Angeles, which saw an <a href=\"https:\/\/abc7.com\/lapd-reports-increase-in-violent-crimes-robberies-compared-to-2023\/14577521\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title>increase<\/a> in violent crime in the first quarter of 2024, is among those jurisdictions still missing from it.<\/p>\n<p>A notice on the FBI&rsquo;s reporting dashboard reads that this year&rsquo;s first quarter data is &ldquo;based on data received from 13,719 of 19,268 law enforcement agencies in the country,&rdquo; meaning more than a quarter of law enforcement agencies are missing from the data.<\/p>\n<p>Zack Smith, a senior legal fellow at the conservative Heritage Foundation, said national and even state-level crime statistics cannot provide a full picture because &ldquo;crime is such a hyper-localized phenomenon.&rdquo; <\/p>\n<p>Debates about crime statistics, he said, can also become &ldquo;wonky&rdquo; because of all of the variables involved in data collection.<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;[The FBI] made it much more difficult and time intensive for local police departments to report their statistics to the FBI,&rdquo; Smith told the <em>Washington Examiner<\/em>. <\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonexaminer.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>He added that &ldquo;many jurisdictions, including some of the biggest jurisdictions, either did not report or are severely delayed in reporting.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>Smith also noted that even if violent crime ticked down this year, &ldquo;it&rsquo;s still going to be significantly higher than it was four to five years ago.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p> <script data-cfasync=\"false\" src=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonexaminer.com\/cdn-cgi\/scripts\/5c5dd728\/cloudflare-static\/email-decode.min.js\"><\/script><script>!function(){var g=window;g.googletag=g.googletag||{},g.googletag.cmd=g.googletag.cmd||[],g.googletag.cmd.push(function(){g.googletag.pubads().setTargeting(\"has-featured-video\",\"true\")})}();<\/script><script>var _bp=_bp||[];_bp.push({\"div\":\"Brid_1758438\",\"obj\":{\"id\":\"27789\",\"width\":\"1280\",\"height\":\"720\",\"stickyDirection\":\"below\",\"video\":\"1758438\"}});<\/script><script defer src=\"https:\/\/services.brid.tv\/player\/build\/brid.min.js\"><\/script><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\"><\/div>\n<p><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>ABC News debate host asserted that crime rates are decreasing, citing incomplete data. During the presidential debate on Tuesday, former President Donald Trump stated that crime rates in the U.S. have increased, prompting a fact-check from moderator David Muir, who highlighted gaps in the available data. Trump expressed concern over crimes committed by undocumented migrants during a discussion about immigration. He claimed, &#8220;Crime here is up and through the roof,&#8221; despite what he called &#8220;fraudulent statements&#8221; made by others. Muir interjected with information from an FBI report indicating that violent crime had actually decreased by 15% nationwide in the first quarter of 2024 compared to the previous year. In response, Trump argued that the FBI&#8217;s statistics excluded cities with high crime rates and labeled their reporting as misleading.<\/p>\n<p>Trump&#8217;s assertion contained some truth; since 2021, the FBI has altered its method for collecting national crime data, which disrupted its Uniform Crime Report program and led to noncompliance from several major police departments like those in New York City and Los Angeles. Consequently, urban areas where crime is more common were not fully represented in these statistics. The preliminary data for this year&#8217;s first quarter still lacks contributions from some major cities; for instance, Los Angeles experienced an uptick in violent crime but was not included in this report.<\/p>\n<p>According to a notice on the FBI\u2019s dashboard regarding this year&#8217;s first-quarter data: it was compiled from only 13,719 out of approximately 19,268 law enforcement agencies across the country\u2014indicating that over a quarter of agencies did not submit their reports. Zack Smith from the conservative Heritage Foundation noted that both national and state-level statistics fail to capture localized trends effectively due to various complexities involved in data collection processes. He pointed out that changes made by the FBI have complicated reporting for local police departments and resulted in delays or omissions among many jurisdictions.<\/p>\n<p>Smith also remarked that even if there is a slight decrease in violent crime this year compared to last year\u2019s figures, overall levels remain significantly higher than they were four or five years ago<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":49,"featured_media":2339786,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_mo_disable_npp":"","fifu_image_url":"https:\/\/www.washingtonexaminer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/Donald_Trump_PA_2024_Debate_rrr555.webp","fifu_image_alt":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[36059,40660,32626],"class_list":["post-2339785","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","tag-abc-news","tag-crime-statistics","tag-debate-analysis"],"fifu_image_url":"https:\/\/www.washingtonexaminer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/Donald_Trump_PA_2024_Debate_rrr555.webp","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2339785","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/49"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2339785"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2339785\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/2339786"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2339785"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2339785"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2339785"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}