{"id":2243580,"date":"2024-05-13T15:10:02","date_gmt":"2024-05-13T19:10:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/pelosi-schooled-by-banjo-player-at-university-debate\/"},"modified":"2024-05-13T15:14:29","modified_gmt":"2024-05-13T19:14:29","slug":"pelosi-schooled-by-banjo-player-at-university-debate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/pelosi-schooled-by-banjo-player-at-university-debate\/","title":{"rendered":"Pelosi learns from banjo player at university debate"},"content":{"rendered":"<aside class=\"mashsb-container mashsb-main mashsb-stretched\"><div class=\"mashsb-box\"><div class=\"mashsb-count mash-medium\" style=\"float:left\"><div class=\"counts mashsbcount\">16<\/div><span class=\"mashsb-sharetext\">SHARES<\/span><\/div><div class=\"mashsb-buttons\"><a class=\"mashicon-facebook mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.conservativenewsdaily.net%2Fbreaking-news%2Fpelosi-schooled-by-banjo-player-at-university-debate%2F\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Facebook<\/span><\/a><a class=\"mashicon-twitter mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/intent\/tweet?text=&amp;url=https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/?p=2243580&amp;via=ConservNewsDly\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Twitter<\/span><\/a><a class=\"mashicon-subscribe mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"#\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Subscribe<\/span><\/a><div class=\"onoffswitch2 mash-medium mashsb-noshadow\" style=\"display:none\"><\/div><\/div>\n            <\/div>\n                <div style=\"clear:both\"><\/div><\/aside>\n            <!-- Share buttons by mashshare.net - Version: 4.0.47--><p>Nancy Pelosi,\u2064 during a visit to England, contested Donald\u200c Trump&#8217;s politics\u200b at an Oxford \u200cUniversity \u200cdebate, warning \u2063about the dangers of\u200b populism. Despite winning the debate \u2062at the venue, criticism emerged online, highlighting \u2062her opponent&#8217;s\u200c contrasting\u200b views. Marshall,\u200d known for his defense of democracy, \u200dchallenged Pelosi&#8217;s stance, emphasizing\u2063 the importance of listening to \u200bordinary citizens. The debate showcased differing perspectives on democracy and governance, resonating with global audiences.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"readmore\">\n    <button onclick=\"showReadMore()\" id=\"readmorebtn\">Read more&#8230;<\/button>\n<\/p>\n<hr id=\"line\">\n<span id=\"more\"><\/p>\n<header> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.westernjournal.com\/news\/\">  News <\/a>   <span> <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.westernjournal.com\/author\/jsaunders\/\">  <\/a> <\/p>\n<p> <span>   By <a href=\"https:\/\/www.westernjournal.com\/author\/jsaunders\/%20\"><span>Joe Saunders<\/span><\/a> <\/span> <span>   May 13, 2024 at 11:55am <\/span> <\/span>  <\/header>\n<section>\n<p>Nancy Pelosi might have won the battle, but the war is a different story.<\/p>\n<p>On a trip to England in April, the former House speaker kept up her crusade against former President Donald Trump\u2019s brand of politics by arguing at an Oxford University debate that \u201cpopulism is a threat to democracy.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Her side got more votes in the debating hall, but as video of the event circulates, her opponent is getting the word out, and it\u2019s not making Pelosi look good.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">Nancy Pelosi did not like what I had to say\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Populism is not a threat to democracy.<\/p>\n<p>Democrat elites like her are.<\/p>\n<p>Watch my full Oxford Union speech from the debate with her: <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/ZNm8maNZjy\">pic.twitter.com\/ZNm8maNZjy<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Winston Marshall (@MrWinMarshall) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/MrWinMarshall\/status\/1788965604096950381?\">May 10, 2024<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>In the final debate summations, Pelosi was pitted against Winston Marshall, a native Briton best known to Americans as a former banjo player and guitarist for the folk group Mumford &#038; Sons who was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.westernjournal.com\/cancel-culture-strikes-musician-forced-apologize-reading-anti-antifa-book\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">targeted by the cancel-culture left<\/a> for praising a book exposing the radicals of antifa.<\/p>\n<p>(He also quickly learned just how ferociously unforgiving that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.westernjournal.com\/ex-mumford-sons-guitarist-explains-lesson-learned-apologizing-woke-mob-dont\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">cancel culture can be<\/a>.)<\/p>\n<p>That experience could be why he was chosen to participate in the debate since he, like Pelosi, is not a graduate of Oxford.<\/p>\n<p>As the Oxford student newspaper <a href=\"https:\/\/cherwell.org\/2024\/04\/25\/oxford-union-believes-populism-is-a-threat-to-democracy\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Cherwell<\/a> reported, Pelosi and Marshall were the last speakers on their sides, with Pelosi arguing that the true danger posed by \u201cpopulism\u201d is \u201cthe misrepresentation of people who exploit the populist attitude of \u2018I want to have my say\u2019 and then use it to get elected and then hurt those people the most.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Her <a href=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/rep-cori-bush-compares-her-fear-during-capitol-riot-to-being-attacked-by-police-white-supremacists\/\" title=\"Rep. Cori Bush Compares Her Fear During Capitol Riot To Being Attacked By Police, White Supremacists\">full speech<\/a> is below for readers who have 15 minutes of their lives to throw away.<\/p>\n<p> <iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Nancy Pelosi argues that populism is a threat to democracy due to voters being manipulated 5\/6\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/VW8SnMRhExA?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s unclear how much resonance Pelosi\u2019s words might have had with the Oxford lads and lasses, but American voters familiar with American politics, in particular Nancy Pelosi\u2019s two tenures as speaker of the House, might think that sounded an awful lot like the 21st century Democratic Party. This is a party that has thrived on pretending to give the poor and minorities their \u201csay,\u201d then hurts them more with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.westernjournal.com\/state-accused-cover-damning-proof-reveals-public-schools-failings\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">dreadful Democratic-run schools<\/a> and dangerous <a href=\"https:\/\/www.westernjournal.com\/oakland-naacp-condemns-defund-police-blistering-statement-urges-white-asian-latino-communities-sound-crime-alarm\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Democratic-run cities<\/a> than any Republican has, especially <a href=\"https:\/\/www.westernjournal.com\/trump-economy-sets-third-straight-month-record-black-unemployment-rates\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Republicans named Donald Trump<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>But Marshall\u2019s response should resonate with any residents of the Western world who have watched as their governments have become almost divorced from will of the people.<\/p>\n<p>From his beginning, where he noted sardonically that words such as \u201cwoman\u201d have changed meanings over the years (largely thanks to leftists), to the end, he articulated almost exactly the logic of the conservative cause \u2014 a cause the left disparages as \u201cpopulism\u201d in an effort to destroy it.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cMainstream media elites are part of a class who don\u2019t just disdain populism, they disdain the people,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s not just the mainstream media, of course, it\u2019s the entrenched powers of government who disdain the people \u2014 the point of Marshall\u2019s entire response.<\/p>\n<p>Check it out here. It might be a little heavy on references to European and U.K. politics that won\u2019t exactly land with most American viewers, but from a philosophical point of view, it\u2019s worth a quarter-hour of any American\u2019s time.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>WARNING: The video contains language that might offend some viewers.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p> <iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Winston Marshall argues that populism is not a threat democracy, but rather is democracy itself 6\/6\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/vFmjgbdNNgw?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>And judging by the social media reaction \u2014 2.6 million views since it was posted May 10, more than 28,000 \u201clikes\u201d \u2014 the speech is striking even more chords than Marshall did in his Mumford &#038; Sons days.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">Wow, he really nailed the whole \u201cdemocracy\u201d trope from the left and untwisted their twisting of it<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 LynyrdsMom (@Lynyrds_Mom) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Lynyrds_Mom\/status\/1789085360237981897?\">May 11, 2024<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote data-conversation=\"none\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">And that is what speaking truth to power looks like. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/nytimes?\">@nytimes<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/CNN?\">@CNN<\/a>, et al could learn a lot here.<\/p>\n<p>They won\u2019t, of course. But they could.<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Progressing California (@ProgressingCali) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/ProgressingCali\/status\/1789390915200577887?\">May 11, 2024<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote data-conversation=\"none\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">Safe to say the early members of the Oxford Union would not have predicted that it would become best-known as a platform for viral, anti-woke social media clips.<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Will Kingston (@WillKingston) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/WillKingston\/status\/1789330631479947368?\">May 11, 2024<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>But it was Marshall\u2019s ending that summed up the case \u2014 and summed up the experience of the United States and much of the Western world in the current century, but especially since the coronavirus pandemic brought on new level of state bullying and state or <a href=\"https:\/\/www.westernjournal.com\/censorship-alert-senator-ron-johnson-banned-youtube-covid-treatment-comments\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">state-supported censorship<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cLadies and gentlemen, populism is not a threat to democracy, but I\u2019ll tell you what is. It is elites ordering social media to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/craigslist-craig-funded-the-censorship-industrial-complex-to-silence-dissent-online\/\" title=\"Craigslist Craig Funded The Censorship-Industrial Complex To Silence Dissent Online\">censor political opponents<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s police shutting down dissenters, be it anti-monarchists in this country or gender-critical voices here, or last week in Brussels, the National Conservative Movement,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019ll tell you what is a threat to democracy.<\/p>\n<div id=\"firefly-poll-container\">\n<p>Do you agree that Marshall won this debate?<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s Brussels, D.C., Westminster, the mainstream media, Big Tech, Big Pharma, corporate collusion and the Davos cronies. The threat to democracy comes from those who write off ordinary people as \u2018deplorable.\u2019 The threat to democracy comes from those who smear working people as \u2018racists.\u2019 The threat to democracy comes from those who write off working people as \u2018populists.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAnd I\u2019ll say one last thing. This populist age can be brought to an end at the snap of a finger. All that needs to be done is for elites to start listening to, respecting, and God forbid, working for ordinary people.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Pretty much every word of those paragraphs were direct hits on Pelosi and the political party she leads.<\/p>\n<p>Her side won the debate at the Oxford Union by a vote of 177-68, according to Cherwell \u2014 an almost foregone conclusion considering the makeup of pretty much any university these days.<\/p>\n<p>But that was only the battle. The wider war is still very much going on.<\/p>\n<p>There\u2019s no doubt Marshall helped his side.<\/p>\n<p>Pelosi, by highlighting \u2014 if unknowingly \u2014 the behavior of the Democratic Party, probably only hurt hers.<\/p>\n<p>And probably more than she\u2019ll ever know.<\/p>\n<hr>\n<div>\n<p><b><i>An Important Message from Our Staff:<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p><i><span>We who work here at The Western Journal have fought for years against Big Tech and the elites who want to shut us down and then shut America down. <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><i><span>Make no mistake \u2014 nothing will be the same after November 2024. Will you help us fight? 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Please don\u2019t let the America-hating left win. <\/span><\/i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.com\/donate\/?hosted_button_id=BM6XAWRJ8NS7A&#038;utm_source=site&#038;utm_medium=westernjournalism&#038;utm_campaign=authorpitch\"><i><span>Stand with us today<\/span><\/i><\/a><i><span>!<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<div id=\"author-info-44712\">\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.westernjournal.com\/author\/jsaunders\/\">  <\/a> <\/p>\n<div>\n<p><label for=\"summary-tab-radio-44712\">Summary<\/label><label for=\"more-info-tab-radio-44712\">More<span> Biographical Information<\/span><\/label><label for=\"posts-tab-radio-44712\">Recent<span> Posts<\/span><\/label><label for=\"contact-tab-radio-44712\" onclick=\"if( typeof grecaptcha=='undefined' ) { let cap_s=document.createElement( 'script' ); cap_s.src='https:\/\/www.google.com\/recaptcha\/api.js?render=6LeJFcsUAAAAAPsIEqvB1EebWbZfqRUe6ebMpGy7'; document.body.appendChild( cap_s ); }\">Contact<\/label><\/p>\n<div>\n<p>Joe has spent more than 30 years as a reporter, copy editor and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/biden-delivers-disastrous-commencement-address-at-howard-university-receives-honorary-degree\/\" title=\"Biden Delivers Disastrous Commencement Address at Howard University, Receives Honorary Degree\">metro desk editor<\/a> in newsrooms in Pennsylvania, West Virginia and Florida. He&#8217;s been with Liftable Media since 2015.<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<div>\n<p>  Joe has spent more than 30 years as a reporter, copy editor and metro editor in newsrooms in Pennsylvania, West Virginia and Florida. He&#8217;s been with Liftable Media since 2015. Largely a product of Catholic schools, who discovered Ayn Rand in college, Joe is a lifelong newspaperman who learned enough about the trade to be skeptical of every word ever written. He was also lucky enough to have a job that didn&#8217;t need a printing press to do it. <\/p>\n<p>  Birthplace <\/p>\n<p>  Philadelphia <\/p>\n<p>  Nationality <\/p>\n<p>  American <\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/section>\n<p><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In a May 13, 2024 article by Joe Saunders, Nancy Pelosi, during a visit to England in April, continues her fight against Donald Trump&#8217;s politics. 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