{"id":2237320,"date":"2024-05-04T18:45:02","date_gmt":"2024-05-04T22:45:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/escaping-the-gender-ideology-cult-true-detrans-stories\/"},"modified":"2024-05-04T18:52:56","modified_gmt":"2024-05-04T22:52:56","slug":"escaping-the-gender-ideology-cult-true-detrans-stories","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/escaping-the-gender-ideology-cult-true-detrans-stories\/","title":{"rendered":"Breaking Free from Gender Ideology: Real Detrans Narratives"},"content":{"rendered":"<aside class=\"mashsb-container mashsb-main mashsb-stretched\"><div class=\"mashsb-box\"><div class=\"mashsb-count mash-medium\" style=\"&quot;\"><div class=\"counts mashsbcount\">16<\/div><span class=\"mashsb-sharetext\">SHARES<\/span><\/div><div class=\"mashsb-buttons\"><a class=\"mashicon-facebook mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.conservativenewsdaily.net%2Fbreaking-news%2Fescaping-the-gender-ideology-cult-true-detrans-stories%2F\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Facebook<\/span><\/a><a class=\"mashicon-twitter mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/intent\/tweet?text=&amp;url=https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/?p=2237320&amp;via=ConservNewsDly\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Twitter<\/span><\/a><a class=\"mashicon-subscribe mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"#\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Subscribe<\/span><\/a><div class=\"onoffswitch2 mash-medium mashsb-noshadow\" style=\"display:none\"><\/div><\/div>\n            <\/div>\n                <div style=\"clear:both\"><\/div><\/aside>\n            <!-- Share buttons by mashshare.net - Version: 4.0.47--><p>Some individuals, like Luka\u2062 Hein, opted for a\u2064 double\u200b mastectomy \u2064before hormone therapy,\u200c a costly and \u2064<a href=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/ilhan-omar-blasts-stacey-abrams-for-opposing-georgia-boycotts-demands-support-for-civil-rights-movement\/\" title=\"Ilhan Omar Blasts Stacey Abrams For Opposing Georgia Boycotts, Demands Support For \u2018Civil Rights\u2019 Movement\">long-term commitment<\/a>. Investigations, such as Matt Walsh&#8217;s, reveal profit-driven hormone\u200b distribution\u200c to youth, with unknown \u200clong-term effects. Family dynamics and\u200c loneliness often underlie these decisions, \u200cpushing individuals towards a search for \u2063identity outside traditional avenues. Detransitioners frequently face hurdles and regret in returning to their\u200c biological \u200bselves, often feeling abandoned \u2062by\u200d the medical system and grappling with physical and emotional ramifications. The influence of entities like WPATH on these\u200d journeys adds \u200da layer \u2062of complexity and ethical concerns. Detransitioners&#8217; stories highlight the personal \u200bstruggles and \u2064challenges \u200dfaced, emphasizing the need for balanced and informed support systems. \u2062Tragic cases, like that\u2063 of Abby Martinez\u2063 and her daughter, \u2062serve as poignant reminders of \u2062the stakes involved in navigating gender identity issues.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"readmore\">\n    <button onclick=\"showReadMore()\" id=\"readmorebtn\">Read more&#8230;<\/button>\n<\/p>\n<hr id=\"line\">\n<span id=\"more\"><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">The following is an edited transcript of a recent interview between Daily Wire editor-in-chief John Bickley and senior reporter at the Daily Signal Mary Margaret Olohan on a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dailywire.com\/podcasts\/morning-wire\/escaping-the-gender-ideology-cult-true-detrans-stories-saturday-extra\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Saturday Extra edition of Morning Wire.<\/a><\/span><\/i><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> They discuss Mary Margaret\u2019s new book \u201c<\/span><\/i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Detrans-Stories-Escaping-Gender-Ideology\/dp\/1684515017\/ref=sr_1_1?crid=JKM1BS5ULOP5&#038;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.bZ2vz7BBu_SQYG2Af6XE0VPxwPFFVJrQynBPZUJuFPRHGcPiPA2fOB5Fpwns3OdImXRRhmAH8OsOdNgJDj4PtPHkyqKq7VQAEWrQN592F-mtfkCA2vfbzp_gdci0ZgHB9WpTZGNi9ptO3dH1zEMIuL4edt9EfjSbBJSIvlAuZJxgeps2VLmoLF5mdSlc3yVusE06Jf2rj3cryAnK81N19A.OBSFYpHdw_SNctl2jl0nrlMZPQfX5Vd5UWh-9c8tNMc&#038;dib_tag=se&#038;keywords=Detrans%3A+True+Stories+of+Escaping&#038;qid=1714751147&#038;sprefix=detrans+true+stories+of+escaping%2Caps%2C270&#038;sr=8-1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Detrans: True Stories of Escaping the Gender Ideology Cult<\/span><\/i><\/a><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u201d and why so many young people felt fast-tracked by medical professionals to \u201ctransition.\u201d<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><b>JOHN<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">: Joining us now to discuss her new book \u201c<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Detrans-Stories-Escaping-Gender-Ideology\/dp\/1684515017\/ref=sr_1_1?crid=JKM1BS5ULOP5&#038;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.bZ2vz7BBu_SQYG2Af6XE0VPxwPFFVJrQynBPZUJuFPRHGcPiPA2fOB5Fpwns3OdImXRRhmAH8OsOdNgJDj4PtPHkyqKq7VQAEWrQN592F-mtfkCA2vfbzp_gdci0ZgHB9WpTZGNi9ptO3dH1zEMIuL4edt9EfjSbBJSIvlAuZJxgeps2VLmoLF5mdSlc3yVusE06Jf2rj3cryAnK81N19A.OBSFYpHdw_SNctl2jl0nrlMZPQfX5Vd5UWh-9c8tNMc&#038;dib_tag=se&#038;keywords=Detrans%3A+True+Stories+of+Escaping&#038;qid=1714751147&#038;sprefix=detrans+true+stories+of+escaping%2Caps%2C270&#038;sr=8-1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Detrans: True Stories of Escaping the Gender Ideology Cult<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u201d is Mary Margaret Olohan, a senior reporter at the Daily Signal \u2013 and our guest host this last week. Mary Margaret, thanks for coming on.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>MARY MARGARET<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">: Thanks so much for having me. This is so fun to talk about my book on Morning Wire.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>JOHN<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">: Your book, \u201cDetrans,\u201d comes out later this month. It tells the true stories of people who have detransitioned. This is a very controversial topic \u2013 though it\u2019s becoming something that people are paying increasing attention to. First, tell us something about the people you talked to for this book.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>MARY MARGARET<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">: The people I talked to were largely young people who transitioned in their teens or attempted to transition. Because we know that a man can\u2019t actually become a woman and a woman can\u2019t actually become a man. But that\u2019s the lie they were sold by doctors and therapists and medical professionals. So these young people, including <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dailywire.com\/episode\/transition-of-minors-is-malpractice-chloe-cole\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Chloe Cole<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">, Prisha Mosley and Abel Garcia, they went on hormones to try and become another gender. And so, for the girls, when they would take testosterone, they would notice all these bizarre physical and mental changes. For example, their hair changed, their voices became really deep, and, <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/transcare.ucsf.edu\/article\/information-testosterone-hormone-therapy\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">their skin started getting a little coarser,<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">  just like their hair. Also, some of the <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pmc\/articles\/PMC6201288\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">girls could no longer scream or cry<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">, and they found that really disturbing. Then, mentally, a lot of these girls were describing extreme rage and very increased sexual urges. They said they sort of felt like they were going through a male puberty, but at the same time, it kind of felt like they were going through female menopause in their teenage years. So just really confusing, disturbing emotional and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/is-that-guy-on-steroids-how-to-know\/\" title=\"Is That Guy on Steroids? How to Know\">physical side effects<\/a>, that they weren\u2019t actually able to give informed consent for. These are kids we\u2019re talking about. When they supposedly consented to these procedures, they had no idea what they were getting into. So now a lot of them are suing.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>JOHN<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">: Right. And I want to get to those lawsuits soon, but what age did these transitions begin?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>MARY MARGARET<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">: Most of these transitions began when these young people were in their teens. So Chloe Cole, by the time she was just 16, had undergone a double mastectomy and removed her breasts forever.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>JOHN<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">: So, sometimes surgeries \u2013 and I assume all of them underwent hormone treatments as well, correct?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>MARY MARGARET<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">: Yes, though some of them did it in different orders. For example, Luka Hein, a young woman who was trying to become a man, got a double mastectomy before she went on hormones. And these hormones, I should add, are a costly investment for young people that they\u2019re going to continue taking for the majority of their lives. I remember <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dailywire.com\/news\/matt-walsh-undercover-investigation-catches-trans-health-care-providers-falsifying-patient-info-to-fast-track-sex-change-surgeries\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Matt Walsh<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">  did a really great investigation on how these young people are often gaining hormones and how they\u2019re accessing them \u2013 and the kind of profits that organizations are making from giving hormones to young people to try and change their bodies. And we still don\u2019t know all of the experimental effects that these hormones are going to have on them.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>JOHN<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">: Right. More studies are coming out on that with some very troubling findings. Did any of these detransitioners discuss with you what really pushed them over the edge in terms of deciding to transition in the first place?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>MARY MARGARET<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">: Yes, I actually talked to them about this at length because I think it\u2019s really, really important to understanding where our culture is at and why so many young people are feeling called to do this. Most of the detransitioners I talked to had a little bit of a turbulent family life \u2013 nothing that we might consider crazy, but many of them had parents who were not doing well in their relationship with one another \u2014 perhaps they were getting divorced. One young woman who I spoke with had a mother who was alcoholic. Another young man that I spoke with had a parent whose relationships weren\u2019t great and was largely raised by his grandmother. So, most of these young people were not in stable family situations. None of them were in families that were practicing faith, which I found really interesting. None of these people that I talked to were playing sports. They largely felt lonely and ostracized at school. They felt like they either were on the spectrum or they suspected that they were on the spectrum and that\u2019s something that is actually very common for those who are identifying as transgender is that they are on the spectrum, and, and so all of these factors were playing into them feeling lonely and disconnected at school, not sure whether they were fitting in, and looking for identity and companionship in other places, which unfortunately, in our, our day and age, often ends up being the internet.<\/span><\/p>\n<h4><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dailywire.com\/podcasts\/morning-wire\/escaping-the-gender-ideology-cult-true-detrans-stories-saturday-extra\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">LISTEN: Morning Wire\u2019s interview with Mary Margaret Olohan<\/a><\/strong><\/h4>\n<p><b>JOHN<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">: So they saw people promoting this, or people in groups that they felt like maybe they could connect with that also had similar feelings. And then, at some point, they sought medical help. How did the medical process go? How thorough was the assessment? Was it fast-tracked or slow-walked \u2013 what was that process like for them?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>MARY MARGARET<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">: Oh, every single detransitioner I spoke with said they were absolutely fast-tracked through the medical system. I think it was Luka who was just saying that when she went in and told her therapist that she wondered if she was a boy, it was like she had said the magic words and from there on out she was right on the way to her transition. I think it\u2019s worth pointing out that a lot of these transition procedures are very much attached to the next step. So, for example, when Chloe starts talking to her doctors about getting puberty blockers to stunt her puberty while she supposedly \u201cfigures out\u201d what gender she is \u2014 that\u2019s what the doctors would tell her. So when she\u2019s about to go on puberty blockers, the presumption is the next thing she\u2019s going to do is go on testosterone. Then the presumption from there is that of course she\u2019s going to get a double mastectomy. And the presumption from there is that she might get a hysterectomy, and the presumption from there is that she might want to get fake male genitalia. So it just compounds and compounds and compounds. It\u2019s very costly, very invasive. And all of the detransitioners I spoke with said that they just felt like they were put on this road with very few questions asked and sent on their way.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>JOHN<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">: Did you see patterns in terms of how the parents or the family handled the transition process? Were they involved? Were they worried? Was there pushback?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>MARY MARGARET<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">: Yes, and that\u2019s one of the most tragic aspects of this crisis that we\u2019re seeing all these young people going through. Largely, when it comes to teenagers and young adults who are going through this \u201cgender dysphoria\u201d and identifying as a girl, identifying as a man, their parents love them and they want to help them. What the parents are told by doctors and the medical system is, \u201cWould you rather have a dead daughter or a living son?\u201d And that\u2019s a threat to these parents. And these parents, many of whom are not well-versed in politics or <a href=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/flashback-teacher-sues-school-board-after-being-fired-he-refused-to-compromise-on-trans-pronouns\/\" title=\"Flashback: Teacher Sues School Board After Being Fired \u2013 He Refused To Compromise on Trans Pronouns\">gender ideology<\/a>, are left thinking, \u201cMy daughter or my son is struggling so much, very obviously mentally struggling, and I want to help them, so I\u2019m going to trust that these doctors know what they\u2019re doing.\u201d Unfortunately, the doctors are betraying not just the parents, but also the young person, and they\u2019re lying and promising things that cannot be attained, including that these surgeries and these procedures will make things better, make the young person happy. These doctors shouldn\u2019t be promising that. They have no ability to provide that happiness. That\u2019s why I call it a \u201cgender ideology cult\u201d in the title of my book, because this is very cult-like. It\u2019s not scientific. It\u2019s not safe. It\u2019s experimental and cult-like, and it\u2019s incredibly scary.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>JOHN<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">: Now, one of the entities driving this movement, particularly in the medical industry, is WPATH. And a lot of these doctors will cite WPATH standards of care as sort of their cover for the action that they take, their playbook for how they carry out these procedures. Did you look into WPATH?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>MARY MARGARET<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">: With the recent expos\u00e9 of the <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/public.substack.com\/p\/the-wpath-files\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">WPATH files<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">, we now know that many of these so-called experts <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/commentisfree\/2024\/mar\/09\/disturbing-leaks-from-us-gender-group-wpath-ring-alarm-bells-in-nhs\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">involved with WPATH<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">  are actually not experts at all. They\u2019re conducting experimental treatments and they\u2019re aware that these treatments are experimental and dangerous. For example, the WPATH files showed that these doctors were aware that sometimes hormones are causing tumors in young people; they were aware that sometimes young people, by taking hormones or puberty blockers, will suffer losses of fertility. And yet they weren\u2019t sharing these things publicly. Meanwhile, all of these pro-transgender sites and all of these <a href=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/60-minutes-runs-explosive-segment-featuring-young-transgender-individuals-who-decided-to-reverse-course\/\" title=\"60 Minutes Runs Explosive Segment Featuring Young Transgender Individuals Who Decided To Reverse Course\">medical organizations<\/a> will tout the WPATH certifications or the WPATH doctors. And media outlets will say things like all major medical organizations support \u201cgender-affirming care\u201d and they\u2019ll cite, guess who, WPATH. So, it\u2019s a very circular little game that they\u2019re all playing here, in condoning these treatments that we know to be experimental. I\u2019ve said this before, but I do think there is a reckoning coming for these doctors involved with WPATH. I do believe that the expos\u00e9 of those files was the beginning of the end for this organization. I hope it is.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>JOHN<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">: We\u2019ve heard rumblings of lawsuits being filed or in the works and I wouldn\u2019t be surprised if we see some directed their way. So, you described this process where these kids who are lonely, often feeling isolated, seek out a sense of identity and then seek medical help. But now you\u2019ve talked to some who have come through the other side of this and feel a lot of regret and a desire to detransition. What was that process like for them \u2013 trying to turn around and turn back to who they were biologically?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>MARY MARGARET<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">: Well, it began on a very traumatic note. Because to decide to detransition means that all of these people have to, first of all, recognize that they were lied to. And so many of the detransitioners in my book told me that the moment they realized that everything was wrong, it all kind of came crashing down around them because it was really a moment of realizing, \u201cOh my gosh, I\u2019m not happy. I\u2019m still struggling. In fact, I feel worse than I felt before my surgery, before my hormones.\u201d And from there on out, some of them would go to their doctors and say, \u201cI don\u2019t like this anymore. I don\u2019t want to be a man. Can you help me detransition?\u201d And the doctors don\u2019t want to hear that. I believe it was Abel Garcia who told me when he went to his doctors and asked them to help him detransition, they told him this was just part of his gender journey. And, first of all, it\u2019s an incredibly insulting and hard thing to hear when you have been through so much suffering and you\u2019re asking for help. But also, the doctors made it clear that they, A) didn\u2019t know how to help, and B) weren\u2019t really interested in trying. So that\u2019s something that I\u2019m going to be doing more reporting on \u2014 the cowardly doctors who were refusing to help detransitioners who\u2019ve been very hurt by the medical system. Now they have no choice and no medical professionals to help them. And so they\u2019re, they\u2019re going through this process of detransitioning alone and they\u2019re finding that they have a lot of complications from the hormones. They\u2019re still figuring out if they\u2019re infertile, they\u2019re still figuring out what kinds of medical complications they have from the hormones, changes in bone density, aches and pains in their shoulders and in their back. <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dailywire.com\/news\/the-experiment-is-never-ending-chloe-cole-laments-dangers-of-trans-surgery-while-testifying-in-support-of-detrans-bill-of-rights\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Chloe Cole<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">, for example, her double mastectomy wounds have not fully healed and it\u2019s been years. So, these are just a few of the things they\u2019re still trying to deal with and with very little medical help.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>JOHN<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">: Did you see any pattern in terms of timeline? Is this months or years later that this regret usually starts to kick in? Was it individualized?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>MARY MARGARET<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">: I do think it was very individualized, depending on the person I talked to. Luka, for example, was on testosterone for four years before she stopped taking it. Helena was on testosterone for a much shorter time \u2013 and thank God, Helena did not get a double mastectomy. So she detransitioned more quickly than some of the other ones. But I will say that, though there are a lot of patterns in all these detransitioners stories, each one is really unique in the really sad way they suffered. I think they would all tell you they have very individualized experiences, but they\u2019ve all started speaking up. Specifically, the detransitioners who are in my book, they go and testify before state lawmakers, they speak very frequently and try to help other people with gender dysphoria. They would tell you that detransition is not the end, and that they\u2019re living very fruitful and exciting lives. Prisha Mosley, for example, is about to have a baby, which is honestly a miracle, given what she has been through. I\u2019m really happy for her and excited to see her start a family.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>JOHN<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">: Speaking of families, we talked about how much they supported (or not) the transition process. What about the detransition process? Did you see any patterns there?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>MARY MARGARET<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">: In terms of detransitioning, that is something that\u2019s very hard for the detransition to tell their parents. Because, in Luka\u2019s case, her parents hadn\u2019t wanted her to transition. They were nervous, they were scared, but they thought that it was the best thing to do. They were told by doctors, however, that it was the best thing for their daughter, and she herself had to convince them to go through with it. So, she said that when she called her mother to tell her this was all a mistake, it was one of the hardest conversations she had ever had because, in effect, she was saying, \u201cYou were right, and my life has been fundamentally changed by all of this, and you knew what you were talking about, but you trusted the doctors instead of yourself.\u201d That\u2019s a really tragic conversation to have to have with your parents.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>JOHN<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">: What about the opposite \u2013 was there any resentment for the parents that were overly supportive of the transition process?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>MARY MARGARET<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">: I am interested in knowing that myself, John, because some of these detransitioners are very respectful of their families and they don\u2019t want to necessarily throw them under the bus. I didn\u2019t hear a ton about resentment when it comes to the detransitioners\u2019 relationships with their families. I think they\u2019re aware that this is a topic they have to be careful about because many are quick to call out parents for allowing their children to go down this path, and rightfully so. But at the same time, the detransitioners want there to be empathy for their parents and what they went through. Although, I should add, there absolutely are parents who are pushing their children down this path for selfish and narcissistic reasons, and those parents really should be held accountable for their actions.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>JOHN<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">: So the last chapter of your book is about the tragic story of Abby Martinez and her daughter. What happened there? And why did you include that story?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>MARY MARGARET<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">: Yeah, this is probably the most emotional chapter in the book to me. I spoke with <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dailywire.com\/news\/im-broken-ca-mom-whose-daughter-committed-suicide-after-transitioning-blames-school\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Abby Martinez<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">, the mother of Yaeli Martinez, a young girl who grew up in California. Yaeli stumbled into some bad friendships in high school. The school then <a href=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/10-year-old-celebrated-as-youngest-transgender-model-on-new-york-fashion-week-runway\/\" title=\"10-Year-Old Celebrated As Youngest Transgender Model On New York Fashion Week Runway\">began socially transitioning<\/a> her, speaking to her as though she were a boy, having her meet with a therapist who was similarly treating her. Yaeli slowly, but surely, began to distance herself from her mother, from her family. Ultimately, the California Department of Child and Family Services took Yaeli away from her family and started her on testosterone. Abby, her mother, was understandably distraught. She was trying to see her daughter, and was struggling with making contact with her daughter in a positive way because the girl was just very upset and confused. Ultimately, Yaeli threw herself in front of a train and ended her life. It\u2019s a very sad and emotional story. Abby herself sobbed on the phone as she shared it with me. I included it because all the detransitioners in my book, these are people who\u2019ve been through very hard and traumatic things, but they are okay. They\u2019re on the other side of it, and thankfully, they\u2019re living fruitful lives. They\u2019re doing well. But in this case, Yaeli did not make it. Yaeli is no longer with us and her mother is still suffering intensely from what her daughter was put through. Abby told me that she wants people to know what she\u2019s been through so that they can avoid having this happen to their own children. She said this pain never ends. I think it\u2019ll be a deeply impactful story for people to read. It was very impactful for me to write. I obtained the police report from the officers who found all the pieces of Yaeli\u2019s body all over the train tracks. And I included a lot of that because when I read it, it stayed with me and I don\u2019t think I will ever forget it. And I think it is a really horrific but powerful testimony to what gender ideology can do to any young person.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>JOHN<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">: A truly powerful story. Like you said, tragic, but important to hear that testimony. Mary Margaret, thank you so much for coming on and good luck with this book.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>MARY MARGARET<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">: John, thank you so much. I\u2019m so grateful to be able to share this with your audience.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>JOHN<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">: That was Mary Margaret Olohan, author of \u201c<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Detrans-Stories-Escaping-Gender-Ideology\/dp\/1684515017\/ref=sr_1_1?crid=JKM1BS5ULOP5&#038;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.bZ2vz7BBu_SQYG2Af6XE0VPxwPFFVJrQynBPZUJuFPRHGcPiPA2fOB5Fpwns3OdImXRRhmAH8OsOdNgJDj4PtPHkyqKq7VQAEWrQN592F-mtfkCA2vfbzp_gdci0ZgHB9WpTZGNi9ptO3dH1zEMIuL4edt9EfjSbBJSIvlAuZJxgeps2VLmoLF5mdSlc3yVusE06Jf2rj3cryAnK81N19A.OBSFYpHdw_SNctl2jl0nrlMZPQfX5Vd5UWh-9c8tNMc&#038;dib_tag=se&#038;keywords=Detrans%3A+True+Stories+of+Escaping&#038;qid=1714751147&#038;sprefix=detrans+true+stories+of+escaping%2Caps%2C270&#038;sr=8-1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Detrans: True Stories of Escaping the Gender Ideology Cult<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u201d \u2013 and this has been a Saturday Extra edition of Morning Wire.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>* * *<\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">The National Suicide Prevention Lifeline is a free hotline for individuals in crisis or distress or for those looking to help someone else. It is available 24\/7 at 1-800-273-8255.<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Read the edited transcript of a recent interview with Daily Wire&#8217;s John Bickley and Daily Signal&#8217;s Mary Margaret Olohan on Morning Wire. 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