{"id":2010350,"date":"2023-08-24T02:43:01","date_gmt":"2023-08-24T06:43:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/mike-pence-got-very-bad-advice-about-electoral-college-certification-trump-says\/"},"modified":"2023-08-24T02:45:57","modified_gmt":"2023-08-24T06:45:57","slug":"mike-pence-got-very-bad-advice-about-electoral-college-certification-trump-says","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/mike-pence-got-very-bad-advice-about-electoral-college-certification-trump-says\/","title":{"rendered":"Trump says Mike Pence received terrible advice regarding the certification of the Electoral College."},"content":{"rendered":"<aside class=\"mashsb-container mashsb-main mashsb-stretched\"><div class=\"mashsb-box\"><div class=\"mashsb-count mash-medium\" style=\"&quot;\"><div class=\"counts mashsbcount\">28<\/div><span class=\"mashsb-sharetext\">SHARES<\/span><\/div><div class=\"mashsb-buttons\"><a class=\"mashicon-facebook mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.conservativenewsdaily.net%2Fbreaking-news%2Fmike-pence-got-very-bad-advice-about-electoral-college-certification-trump-says%2F\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Facebook<\/span><\/a><a class=\"mashicon-twitter mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/intent\/tweet?text=&amp;url=https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/?p=2010350&amp;via=ConservNewsDly\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Twitter<\/span><\/a><a class=\"mashicon-subscribe mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"#\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Subscribe<\/span><\/a><div class=\"onoffswitch2 mash-medium mashsb-noshadow\" style=\"display:none\"><\/div><\/div>\n            <\/div>\n                <div style=\"clear:both\"><\/div><\/aside>\n            <!-- Share buttons by mashshare.net - Version: 4.0.47--><div data-post-content=\"true\" class=\"post_content\" id=\"post_content\">\n<p>Former President Donald Trump had a candid conversation with Tucker Carlson on Aug. 23, shedding light on the strained relationship between \u200chim \u200cand\u200d former Vice President\u2062 Mike Pence. According to Trump, \u2063Pence &#8220;got very bad advice&#8221; regarding his role in the certification of electoral votes.<\/p>\n<p>Their once-strong bond deteriorated after Congress certified the electoral votes on Jan. 6, 2021. The disagreement\u200d stemmed from a \u200cdifference in opinion on the constitutional scope\u200c of Pence&#8217;s authority over the process.<\/p>\n<p>Trump and his legal team argued that \u2062Pence had \u2062the power to\u2064 reject electoral votes \u2064from states with allegations\u200b of widespread election fraud,\u200b citing the \u200c12th Amendment\u200b and Electoral Count Act of 1887.<\/p>\n<div class=\"shortcode\">\n<div class=\"border-comp-divider mb-4 mr-4 w-full max-w-[500px] border px-5 py-4 text-[16px] leading-[20px] text-[#262626] md:float-left\">\n<div class=\"mb-3 font-sans text-[16px] font-semibold uppercase leading-[19px] text-[#2F2F2F]\">Related Stories<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 flex gap-2\">\n<div class=\"grow\">\n<div class=\"mb-1 line-clamp-2\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.theepochtimes.com\/us\/almost-all-gop-candidates-say-they-would-back-trump-if-hes-convicted-5479667\">Almost All GOP Candidates Say They Would Back Trump If He&#8217;s Convicted<\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"text-comp-caption text-[14px] leading-[18px]\">8\/23\/2023<\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<div class=\"shrink-0 basis-[120px]\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.theepochtimes.com\/us\/almost-all-gop-candidates-say-they-would-back-trump-if-hes-convicted-5479667\"><\/a><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 flex gap-2\">\n<div class=\"grow\">\n<div class=\"mb-1 line-clamp-2\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.theepochtimes.com\/us\/trump-concedes-he-didnt-know-everything-the-cia-was-doing-5479608\">Trump Concedes He Didn&#8217;t Know Everything the \u2064CIA Was Doing<\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"text-comp-caption text-[14px] leading-[18px]\">8\/23\/2023<\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<div class=\"shrink-0 basis-[120px]\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.theepochtimes.com\/us\/trump-concedes-he-didnt-know-everything-the-cia-was-doing-5479608\"><\/a><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Pence&#8217;s legal team, however, aligned with Democrats and argued\u200c that his power to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/u-s-capitol-on-lockdown-amid-protests\/\" title=\"U.S. Capitol on lockdown amid protests\">certify electoral votes<\/a> was merely ceremonial.\u2062 They maintained that he\u200c couldn&#8217;t accept or reject electoral \u2064slates at\u200d his discretion.<\/p>\n<h2>&#8216;Human Conveyor\u2064 Belt&#8217;<\/h2>\n<p>During his interview with Carlson,\u2062 Trump emphasized \u200dthat Pence received misguided advice \u200dfrom his lawyers regarding his authority over the process.<\/p>\n<p>Trump\u2063 stated, &#8220;In\u2064 my opinion, Mike Pence had the absolute right to send\u200b the \u2063votes back \u2063to the legislatures.&#8221; He believed that \u2064any other interpretation would reduce \u2063Pence to a mere &#8220;human conveyor\u200c belt.&#8221;<\/p>\n<div class=\"shortcode\">\n<div class=\"lazyload-wrapper\">\n<div class=\"lazyload-placeholder\"><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Trump recalled his conversation with Democrats, saying, &#8220;You mean \u2063if he finds\u2064 fraud in Pennsylvania, in Georgia,\u2063 in\u2063 any of these states, Arizona, he\u200b has to send them to Mitch \u2063McConnell, right?&#8221; The response was affirmative, which Trump found unacceptable.<\/p>\n<p>According to Trump,\u200d several lawyers supported \u200bhis position, suggesting\u200c that Pence could have returned electoral slates to\u200d contested states for further scrutiny due to fraud concerns.<\/p>\n<h2>Election of 1800<\/h2>\n<p>Trump also drew parallels to the election of 1800, a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/election-day-kicks-off-in-wyo-alaska\/\" title=\"Election Day kicks off in Wyo. &#038; Alaska\">highly contentious race<\/a>\u2064 in American history. Vice President Thomas Jefferson presided over the certification of electoral results despite being a candidate\u2063 himself. Despite procedural irregularities in Georgia&#8217;s electoral slate, Jefferson counted the votes in his favor.<\/p>\n<p>John Eastman, a prominent advocate for <a href=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/mike-pence-got-very-bad-advice-about-electoral-college-certification-trump-says\/\" title=\"Trump says Mike Pence received terrible advice regarding the certification of the Electoral College.\">expansive vice \u200dpresidential power<\/a> in certifying\u200b electoral \u200cresults, cited this historical example to argue that \u200cPence had the right to reject certain electoral\u2062 slates.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I think [Vice President Pence] got very bad advice,&#8221; Trump expressed.\u2063 &#8220;I really do.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Now,\u2062 let me tell you what happened. I sat there with a\u2064 few\u2062 people. \u2062I think his lawyer was in the room. His lawyer\u2063 was very much against it.\u2062 There were other \u2062lawyers \u2063that felt you could do it. \u200dIt was\u200c one of those things.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I think you could have done it. I think you \u2063can always do something if you see fraud or if you see problems, but it&#8217;s very interesting.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;So after the election was over,\u2063 the \u200dRINOs [Republicans in Name Only] got together\u200b with the Democrats, and they redid the election [law], \u200cso you couldn&#8217;t do it anymore,&#8221; Trump referred to the Electoral Count Act \u200dof 2022, passed by the lame duck\u200b 117th Congress, which explicitly\u200c defined the \u200d<a href=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/gravy-train-keeps-rolling-for-second-stepdaughter-ella-emhoff\/\" title=\"Gravy Train Keeps Rolling for Second Stepdaughter Ella Emhoff\">vice president&#8217;<\/a>s role\u2063 as purely ceremonial.<\/p>\n<div style=\"margin-left:0;margin-right:0;max-width:1200px\">\n<figure style=\"width:640px;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto\" class=\"alignnone\"><figcaption>Former U.S. Vice President Mike Pence participates in \u2064the first Republican Presidential primary debate at the Fiserv\u200b Forum in Milwaukee, Wis., on Aug. 23, 2023<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Former President Donald Trump criticized former Vice President Mike Pence for receiving &#8220;very bad advice&#8221; regarding his involvement in certifying electoral votes. 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