{"id":1839857,"date":"2023-02-08T11:21:41","date_gmt":"2023-02-08T16:21:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/?p=1839857"},"modified":"2023-02-08T11:23:27","modified_gmt":"2023-02-08T16:23:27","slug":"mark-lewis-the-consent-of-the-governed","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/mark-lewis-the-consent-of-the-governed\/","title":{"rendered":"Mark Lewis: The Consent of the Governed?"},"content":{"rendered":"<aside class=\"mashsb-container mashsb-main mashsb-stretched\"><div class=\"mashsb-box\"><div class=\"mashsb-count mash-medium\" style=\"float:left\"><div class=\"counts mashsbcount\">14<\/div><span class=\"mashsb-sharetext\">SHARES<\/span><\/div><div class=\"mashsb-buttons\"><a class=\"mashicon-facebook mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.conservativenewsdaily.net%2Fbreaking-news%2Fmark-lewis-the-consent-of-the-governed%2F\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Facebook<\/span><\/a><a class=\"mashicon-twitter mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/intent\/tweet?text=&amp;url=https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/?p=1839857&amp;via=ConservNewsDly\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Twitter<\/span><\/a><a class=\"mashicon-subscribe mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"#\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Subscribe<\/span><\/a><div class=\"onoffswitch2 mash-medium mashsb-noshadow\" style=\"display:none\"><\/div><\/div>\n            <\/div>\n                <div style=\"clear:both\"><\/div><\/aside>\n            <!-- Share buttons by mashshare.net - Version: 4.0.47-->\n<div><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/ae23f7db-4cc4-42d1-af10-64c7de2fbfee.jpg\" class=\"ff-og-image-inserted\" alt=\"image\"   style=\"display:none\"><\/div>\n<p>\u201cGentlemen may cry, \u2018Peace, peace,&#8217; but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms. Our brethren are already in the field. Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, and peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and SLAVERY? Forbid it, Almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!\u201d (Patrick Henry Second Virginia Convention, March 23, 1775. emphasis mine<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness\u2014that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed&#8230;&#8221; (American Declaration of Independence, 1776).<\/p>\n<p>The \u201cconsent of the governed\u2026\u201d Here&#8217;s a great question: What happens if a significant amount of people are no longer available? \u201cconsent\u201d The \u201cgovernment\u201d They live under what? What are their options? What options are available to them if they have failed multiple times in free elections?<\/p>\n<p>There are several counties in eastern Oregon that are currently in this very position\u2014weary of being governed by a liberal, unresponsive Portland\/Western Oregon coalition (one can hardly blame them). These eastern counties have seen large numbers vote to leave Oregon and join a more conservative Idaho. Let them go! Consent of the governed. Unfortunately, it&#8217;s not so simple.<\/p>\n<p>At least 11 counties in eastern Oregon have expressed this desire. Reps. Judy Boyle (Idaho state) and Barbara Erhardt (Idaho state), sponsored a resolution inviting Oregon&#8217;s legislature to join the Idaho Legislature in discussing the possibility that these counties could become part of Idaho. Boyle stated. \u201cFor quite a few years now, eastern Oregon has been quite unhappy with their state\u2014Portland seems to run everything there\u2014and they have been asking for quite some time if they could move the border and become part of Idaho.\u201d That&#8217;s it. Consent of the governed? Well, regardless, such a move in Oregon doesn\u2019t appear to be imminent. It would require both states to accept it and Congress to approve. Don\u2019t hold your breath.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBut this gets back to my earlier question: what happens if\u2014how many?\u2014people no longer \u201cconsent\u201d What about their government? The American colonists\u2014George Washington, et al\u2014no longer wanted to be governed by England. They seceded. After Mexico had abolished slavery a few decades earlier, the Texans rebelled and formed their own country in 1836. They then seceded form their legal government. And then came the big one. Eleven Southern (slaved) states decided they no longer wanted to be governed Washington, D.C. They seceded too. Are there two good things and one bad thing?<\/p>\n<p>Each of these \u201csecessions\u201d It led to war. The American colonists overthrew the British and established America. The Texans conquered Mexico, and they became an independent country. They joined the American Union in 1845. However, the war was lost by the southern states.<\/p>\n<p><span>So, hmm. So, hmm. \u201cconsent of the governed\u201d If you win the subsequent war for secession, it only means that you can govern yourself. Please, I\u2019m not defending the southern states here\u2014or any secessionist movement\u2014I\u2019m just stating the historical facts. A significant number\u2014apparently the majority of the people of the 11 southern states\u2014no longer wished to be part of the United States. They no longer \u201cconsented\u201d To that government. They wanted to create their own government and they were able to do so.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>They lost the war.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Yes, but it wasn&#8217;t moral secession!&#8221; They had slavery!\u201d So did ALL of the American colonies (at first). Texas. And Texas. This, along with the fact that the winners get the history written and interpreted the way they want.<\/p>\n<p>The Patrick Henry quote, which I introduced this article with, indicates his opposition to \u201cpeace\u201d being \u201cpurchased at the price of chains and slavery.&#8221; The \u201cslavery\u201d He was not referring to one person owning another. But a government that forced its citizens to submit to a system they didn&#8217;t freely agree to. Henry said that for the Americans to continue to be subject to British rule without their consent was slavery. Well, isn\u2019t that actually what slavery is? Forcing obedience? No freedom to choose your way? Isn\u2019t this why we condemn the CCP and tyrannies? To America\u2019s founders, this was \u201cslavery\u201d Of a different but equal sort.<\/p>\n<p>Oregon and Idaho, rejoice! The eastern Oregonians don&#8217;t want to be governed from Portland anymore, they are not willing to submit to that government and would like to seize Idaho. What does it mean? \u201cconsent of the governed\u201d mean?<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAny people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up, and shake off the existing government and form a new one that suits them better. \u00a0This is a most valuable, a most sacred right, a right which we hope and believe is to liberate the world. \u00a0Nor is this right confined to cases in which the whole people of an existing government may choose to exercise it. \u00a0Any portion of such people that can may revolutionize and make their own of so much of the territory as they inhabit. \u00a0More than that, a majority of any portion of such people may revolutionize, putting down a minority\u2026who may oppose their movement\u2026\u201d \u00a0A minority like the Loyalists in the American Revolution, the author went on to say. \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Interesting quote. It&#8217;s interesting.<\/p>\n<p>Abraham Lincoln, January 12, 1848.<\/p>\n<p><em id=\"isPasted\">Don\u2019t miss out on some good American reading from the good ol\u2019 days. \u00a0My western novels\u00a0<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/dp\/1636486533\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>Whitewater<\/em><\/a><em>\u00a0\u00a0<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/dp\/9994983245\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>River Bend<\/em><\/a><em>,<\/em><em>\u00a0They are also available at Amazon, Barnes and Noble and Eliva.com. \u00a0 Another western\u00a0<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Allies-Dilemma-Mark-Lewis-ebook\/dp\/B00BI364GC\/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=2R6B147DQV953&#038;keywords=allie%27s+dilemma&#038;qid=1668838816&#038;sprefix=allie%27s+dilemma%2Caps%2C427&#038;sr=8-1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>Allie\u2019s Dilemma<\/em><\/a><em>, available only for Kindle \u00a0 You can also read other posts on my blog.\u00a0<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/thailandlewis.blogspot.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>thailandlewis.blogspot.com<\/em><\/a><em>.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u201cGentlemen may cry, \u2018Peace, peace,&#8217; but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms. Our brethren are already in the field. Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? &hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":1839860,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_mo_disable_npp":"","fifu_image_url":"https:\/\/cndimages.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com\/breaking-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/IMG_2758-scaled-1.jpg","fifu_image_alt":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[547],"tags":[5377,11677,7090,5200],"class_list":["post-1839857","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-the-bongino-report","tag-consent","tag-governed","tag-lewis","tag-mark"],"fifu_image_url":"https:\/\/cndimages.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com\/breaking-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/IMG_2758-scaled-1.jpg","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1839857","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1839857"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1839857\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1839860"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1839857"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1839857"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1839857"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}