{"id":1778564,"date":"2022-12-17T06:30:15","date_gmt":"2022-12-17T11:30:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/?p=1778564"},"modified":"2022-12-17T09:35:05","modified_gmt":"2022-12-17T14:35:05","slug":"what-protein-powder-is-best-for-you","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/what-protein-powder-is-best-for-you\/","title":{"rendered":"What Protein Powder is Best For You?"},"content":{"rendered":"<aside class=\"mashsb-container mashsb-main mashsb-stretched\"><div class=\"mashsb-box\"><div class=\"mashsb-count mash-medium\" style=\"float:left\"><div class=\"counts mashsbcount\">14<\/div><span class=\"mashsb-sharetext\">SHARES<\/span><\/div><div class=\"mashsb-buttons\"><a class=\"mashicon-facebook mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.conservativenewsdaily.net%2Fbreaking-news%2Fwhat-protein-powder-is-best-for-you%2F\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Facebook<\/span><\/a><a class=\"mashicon-twitter mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/intent\/tweet?text=&amp;url=https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/?p=1778564&amp;via=ConservNewsDly\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Twitter<\/span><\/a><a class=\"mashicon-subscribe mash-medium mash-nomargin mashsb-noshadow\" href=\"#\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"icon\"><\/span><span class=\"text\">Subscribe<\/span><\/a><div class=\"onoffswitch2 mash-medium mashsb-noshadow\" style=\"display:none\"><\/div><\/div>\n            <\/div>\n                <div style=\"clear:both\"><\/div><\/aside>\n            <!-- Share buttons by mashshare.net - Version: 4.0.47--><div class=\"post\" itemprop=\"articleBody\">\n<div class=\"lightbox-wrapper\"><a class=\"lightbox\" href=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/aadac59b6114afcc28f8ae6e342c797893fe020b.jpeg\" data-download-href=\"\/uploads\/short-url\/onrSY9b44r5dJTO3grg2l2uugAz.jpeg?dl=1\" title=\"Best-Protein-Powder\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/aadac59b6114afcc28f8ae6e342c797893fe020b_2_690x282.jpeg\" alt=\"Best-Protein-Powder\" data-base62-sha1=\"onrSY9b44r5dJTO3grg2l2uugAz\" width=\"690\" height=\"282\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/aadac59b6114afcc28f8ae6e342c797893fe020b_2_690x282.jpeg, https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/aadac59b6114afcc28f8ae6e342c797893fe020b.jpeg 1.5x, https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/aadac59b6114afcc28f8ae6e342c797893fe020b.jpeg 2x\" data-dominant-color=\"8A7B76\"   style=\"display:none\"><\/a><\/div>\n<h3>\nHow to Evaluate Your Protein Supplement<\/h3>\n<blockquote>\n<p>What\u2019s the best protein powder? With all the different protein scoring systems out there, here\u2019s how to know which is best for you.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<hr \/>\n<h3>\nThe Best Protein Powder?<\/h3>\n<p>When it comes to evaluating the quality of a protein, it all comes down to bioavailability and amino acid profile.<\/p>\n<p>Bioavailability simply refers to how much of a particular protein people absorb. To figure this out, scientists give test subjects carefully measured amounts of protein to ingest. The scientists then play cards until the test subjects\u2019 poop hits the Tupperware container, at which point they measure how much nitrogen is in it.<\/p>\n<p>They then use the amount of nitrogen detected to calculate how much protein was in the feces and compare it to how much was ingested. The final number is referred to as the BV, or biological value.<\/p>\n<h3>\nIs the BV of a Protein Worth a Crap (Literally)?<\/h3>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/8af9e70eeed01795c4811ddaf86b86b88c92a6df.jpeg\" alt=\"How-to-Evaluate-Your-Protein-Powder\" data-base62-sha1=\"jPriTjtRyy2jiFo7pk3cHe7HUg7\" width=\"620\" height=\"349\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The trouble is, the calculation wasn\u2019t very good from the get go because it neglects some basic human dietary mechanics.<\/p>\n<p>First of all, if the protein is \u201cfast acting,\u201d like whey, some of it can be converted to glucose, particularly if the person is a keto madman and is chronically low on carbs (and ipso facto, glycogen). Secondly, bacteria in the gut tend to filch some of the protein.<\/p>\n<p>While BV is kind of outdated, protein manufacturers still use it occasionally to play the \u201cour protein is better than yours\u201d game. The current accepted protein evaluation standard, used by the FDA, is the PDCAAS, or Protein Digestibility Corrected Amino Acid Score, which combines biological value with a protein\u2019s amino acid profile.<\/p>\n<p>Some proteins have practically everything a human needs to sustain tissue growth. We call them \u201ccomplete\u201d proteins. They have a nearly perfect blend of essential amino acids (those we can\u2019t make ourselves) and branched chain amino acids (BCAAs), which are particularly important to muscle growth.<\/p>\n<p>Other proteins are missing certain amino acids or have lousy amounts of BCAAs, so much so that their amino acid profile wouldn\u2019t support the growth of a banana slug.<\/p>\n<p>Unfortunately, the PDCAAS isn\u2019t the best way to gauge a protein\u2019s quality, either. To calculate it, the scientists again measure and calculate excreted nitrogen, but the PDCAAS, like the BV, doesn\u2019t take into account any protein that was eaten up by the bacteria in the gut.<\/p>\n<p>It also requires that test subjects have an empty stomach, which exposes the test to all kinds of inaccuracies. In real life, you might quaff a protein shake, but there\u2019d probably still be a slab of lasagna down there to slow down the protein\u2019s absorption. Equally likely, there might be some Wheat Chex floating around your stomach like inflatable pool toys that might bind up some of that protein because of their high-fiber content.<\/p>\n<p>That leaves a relatively new scale, the Digestible Indispensable Amino Acid Score, or DIAAS. It measures the nitrogen content of the ileum, or small intestine, instead of the nitrogen in the feces. This allows researchers to get a more realistic evaluation of a protein\u2019s bioavailability because the measurement occurs before all those bacteria were able to munch up a lot of the ingested protein. It also takes into account the digestibility of each amino acid instead of the overall protein. It\u2019s currently the best scoring system in use.<\/p>\n<p>Got all that? If not, it doesn\u2019t matter so much. What\u2019s important is to just choose the best protein source based on your needs and our current best guesses as to which support muscle and tissue growth the best.<\/p>\n<h3>\nSo, How do the Various Proteins Rate?<\/h3>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/6f5eae0f8b5ba70390175381cd96b70954a26b2f.jpeg\" alt=\"Protein\" data-base62-sha1=\"fTdQHugJPYIkc7eAAaehRoGqeTl\" width=\"620\" height=\"349\" \/><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.t-nation.com\/supplements\/tip-the-scoop-on-vegetable-proteins\/\">Plant-derived proteins<\/a> are probably the fastest growing sector in the protein powder business. At first glance, it makes sense they\u2019d be doing fairly well.<\/p>\n<p>Anything associated with plants is instinctively thought to be healthier, but the thinking is a bit two-dimensional: these plant-protein fans aren\u2019t actually eating plants, but the amino acids that are left over when the water, fiber, chlorophyll, polyphenols, vitamins, and minerals \u2013 just about everything else in the plant \u2013 is extracted. My Hanes cotton underwear are probably closer in composition to an actual plant in nature than a pile of plant-derived protein.<\/p>\n<p>But there remains another truth, this one particularly inconvenient: the amino acid profile of plants is not the same as what you\u2019d find in human muscle. Sure, most of the amino acids are there, but usually not in the amounts you\u2019d need to support optimal growth of muscle.<\/p>\n<p>That being said, there are a couple of plant proteins that come close to being complete: pea protein and soy protein.<\/p>\n<p>The PDCAAS shows pea protein at an impressive 0.893, while soy proteins rates from 0.95 to 1.00, depending on how they were processed. That means that pea protein is damn close to the highly desirable 1.0 score that most animal proteins come close to, while soy protein is neck-and-neck with them.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s a little misleading, though. The PDCAAS must grade on a curve or something so animal-derived proteins don\u2019t get swelled heads because they actually truncate the numbers. If they didn\u2019t do that, whey protein isolate would score 1.2 on the scale and milk protein a tad higher, meaning they\u2019re complete-PLUS.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, if you compare proteins on the more sensible DIAAS scale, pea and soy protein get scores of 0.822 and 0.902, respectively, while whey protein isolate and milk protein concentrate score a superior 1.09 and 1.18.<\/p>\n<p>The DIAAS shows pea and soy scoring lower than the two classic milk proteins, whey and casein, because they\u2019re a little short on the amino acid methionine and they don\u2019t quite pack the same BCAA punch as the milk (and meat-based) proteins.<\/p>\n<p>Pea and soy proteins are also really high in sodium, if that\u2019s a concern to you. They use salt in the distillation process and a lot of it remains in the final product.<\/p>\n<h3>\nMeat Proteins are Neither Perfect or Complete<\/h3>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/81f2005613bb82385f2f170a2f4c989d134b151f.jpeg\" alt=\"Protein-Shake\" data-base62-sha1=\"ixy4U6iGatCGjI0Y85QzH0DNoU7\" width=\"620\" height=\"349\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Beef protein powders aren\u2019t all that common. Chicken-based protein powders are even rarer, but they do seem to have a loyal customer base consisting mostly of Paleo-diet types. The assumption is that these proteins, being made from the meat of actual animals, are highly suited to building muscle in people who use them.<\/p>\n<p>Not so much. These proteins are usually made mostly of the skin, bone, tendons, and other connective tissues of muscle. What you\u2019re getting is boiled down collagen, the same stuff in the Jell-O dessert with the floating, suspended-in-space marshmallows your grandma used to make on Sunday before she mercifully died and took that recipe with her.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s not to say <a href=\"https:\/\/www.t-nation.com\/lean-built-eating\/how-much-collagen-best-collagen-supplement-to-use\/\">collagen<\/a> doesn\u2019t have its merits (healthier joints, skin, etc.), but it\u2019s not exactly the best for building muscle and it\u2019s lacking in BCAAs. Chew on these stats: While beef protein from an actual cow has a PDCAAS of .92, collagen has a PDCAAS of 0.00.<\/p>\n<h3>\nSo What\u2019s the Verdict?<\/h3>\n<p>Whey isolate and milk proteins (casein, specifically) appear to be the best for muscle-building purposes, regardless of what scale you use.<\/p>\n<p>Traditionally, whey protein isolate has been used for peri-workout periods as it\u2019s absorbed rather quickly, whereas casein is often preferred for all other times as it digests slowly and supplies a steady stream of amino acids. Of course, whey protein also contains some interesting immunoglobulins that appear to contribute to human health.<\/p>\n<p>Given all that, it looks like a blend of fast-acting whey protein isolate and slow-digesting micellar casein (like <a href=\"https:\/\/biotest.t-nation.com\/products\/metabolic-drive-low-carb\">Metabolic Drive\u00ae<\/a>) is best for strength athletes and physique athletes.<\/p>\n<aside class=\"onebox allowlistedgeneric\" data-onebox-src=\"https:\/\/biotest.t-nation.com\/products\/metabolic-drive-low-carb\">\n<header class=\"source\">\n      <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/global.discourse-cdn.com\/tnation\/original\/4X\/7\/1\/5\/715585c562f35505fa6ad5a68a1576f42627aa47.jpeg\" class=\"site-icon\" width=\"32\" height=\"32\" alt=\"image\" \/><\/p>\n<p>      <a href=\"https:\/\/biotest.t-nation.com\/products\/metabolic-drive-low-carb\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">T Nation Biotest<\/a><br \/>\n  <\/header>\n<article class=\"onebox-body\">\n    <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/7e11d57123f48ad72ca0d5661a0ecc6fe0606854_2_500x500-1.jpeg\" class=\"thumbnail onebox-avatar\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/7e11d57123f48ad72ca0d5661a0ecc6fe0606854_2_500x500-1.jpeg, https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/7e11d57123f48ad72ca0d5661a0ecc6fe0606854_2_750x750-1.jpeg 1.5x, https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/7e11d57123f48ad72ca0d5661a0ecc6fe0606854_2_1000x1000-1.jpeg 2x\" data-dominant-color=\"B18486\" alt=\"image\" \/><\/p>\n<h3><a href=\"https:\/\/biotest.t-nation.com\/products\/metabolic-drive-low-carb\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Metabolic Drive\u00ae<\/a><\/h3>\n<p>Metabolic Drive\u00ae protein not only tastes as good as a decadent milkshake, it also provides a blend of the most technically advanced and highest-quality proteins available anywhere \u2013 making it the ultimate muscle building, performance-enhancing&#8230;<\/p>\n<\/article>\n<\/aside>\n<p>Vegetarians, however, would best be served by pea protein, as soy protein often contains phytoestrogens that may affect human physiology. While the amount of these phytoestrogens is very small \u2013 much less than you\u2019d find in soy itself or soy flour \u2013 the cumulative effects can\u2019t be discounted.<\/p>\n<details>\n<summary>\nReferences<\/summary>\n<h3>\nReferences<\/h3>\n<ol>\n<li>Hughes GL et al. <strong>Protein Digestibility-Corrected Amino Acid Scores (PDCAAS) for Soy Protein Isolate and Concentrate: Criteria for Evaluation.<\/strong> J Agric Food Chem. 2011 Dec 14;59(23):12707-12. <a href=\"https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/22017752\/\">PubMed<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>Mathai JK et al. <strong>Values for digestible indispensable amino acid scores (DIAAS) for some dairy and plant proteins may better describe protein quality than values calculated using the concept for protein digestibility-corrected amino acid scores (PDCAAS).<\/strong> Br J Nutr. 2017 Feb;117(4):490-499. <a href=\"https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/28382889\/\">PubMed<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>Marinangeli CPF et al. <strong>House Potential impact of the digestible indispensable amino acid score as a measure of protein quality on dietary regulations and health.<\/strong> Nutr Rev. 2017 Aug 1;75(8):658-667. <a href=\"https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/28969364\/\">PubMed<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>Mathai JK et al. <strong>Values for digestible indispensable amino acid scores (DIAAS) for some dairy and plant proteins may better describe protein quality than values calculated using the concept for protein digestibility-corrected amino acid scores (PDCAAS).<\/strong> Br J Nutr. 2017 Feb;117(4):490-499. <a href=\"https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/28382889\/\">PubMed<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>Schaafsma G. <strong>The Protein Digestibility-Corrected Amino Acid Score.<\/strong> TJ Nutr. 2000 Jul;130(7):1865S-7S. <a href=\"https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/10867064\/\">PubMed<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>Wolfe RR et al. <strong>Protein quality as determined by the Digestible Indispensable Amino Acid Score: evaluation of factors underlying the calculation.<\/strong> Nutr Rev. 2016 Sep;74(9):584-99. <a href=\"https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/27452871\/\">PubMed<\/a>.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<\/details><\/div>\n<div class=\"post\" itemprop=\"articleBody\">\n<p>I know this will get deleted, but (as much as I love T-Nation and Surge) pick a protein that doesn\u2019t have artificial sweeteners.  There is more and more emerging evidence that artificial sweeteners like aspartame and sucralose alter gut microbiome in even small amounts.  And, there is more and more evidence that your gut microbiome dramatically effects your well being.<\/p>\n<p>I would gladly buy Metabolic Drive if you removed artificial sweeteners from it.<\/p>\n<aside class=\"onebox allowlistedgeneric\" data-onebox-src=\"https:\/\/www.the-scientist.com\/news-opinion\/artificial-sweeteners-alter-gut-bacteria-in-humans-70395\">\n<header class=\"source\">\n      <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/154cc63f41d69524ff38d893eb86dd12bcdd13d7.png\" class=\"site-icon\" width=\"400\" height=\"400\" alt=\"image\" \/><\/p>\n<p>      <a href=\"https:\/\/www.the-scientist.com\/news-opinion\/artificial-sweeteners-alter-gut-bacteria-in-humans-70395\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow ugc\">The Scientist Magazine\u00ae<\/a><br \/>\n  <\/header>\n<article class=\"onebox-body\">\n<div class=\"aspect-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/21dd155e9a082b5cd14e88ff5554a169927a181e_2_690x483.jpeg\" class=\"thumbnail\" width=\"690\" height=\"483\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/21dd155e9a082b5cd14e88ff5554a169927a181e_2_690x483.jpeg, https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/21dd155e9a082b5cd14e88ff5554a169927a181e.jpeg 1.5x, https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/21dd155e9a082b5cd14e88ff5554a169927a181e.jpeg 2x\" data-dominant-color=\"936A66\" alt=\"image\" \/><\/div>\n<h3><a href=\"https:\/\/www.the-scientist.com\/news-opinion\/artificial-sweeteners-alter-gut-bacteria-in-humans-70395\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow ugc\">Artificial Sweeteners Alter Gut Bacteria in Humans<\/a><\/h3>\n<p>When consumed for as little as two weeks, common alternatives to sugar affect intestinal bacterial communities, with some reducing the body&#8217;s ability to regulate blood glucose levels, a study finds.<\/p>\n<\/article>\n<\/aside>\n<aside class=\"onebox allowlistedgeneric\" data-onebox-src=\"https:\/\/www.wsj.com\/articles\/gut-bacteria-linked-to-depression-11670342342\">\n<header class=\"source\">\n      <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/global.discourse-cdn.com\/tnation\/uploads\/default\/original\/4X\/a\/8\/5\/a852c229e27d10396a132bf868f0c160d348b127.svg\" class=\"site-icon\" width=\"100\" height=\"100\" alt=\"image\" \/><\/p>\n<p>      <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wsj.com\/articles\/gut-bacteria-linked-to-depression-11670342342\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow ugc\">WSJ<\/a><br \/>\n  <\/header>\n<article class=\"onebox-body\">\n<div class=\"aspect-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/b832954d962c9f148f9f9bccca3d50742bd3fb4e_2_690x345.jpeg\" class=\"thumbnail\" width=\"690\" height=\"345\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/b832954d962c9f148f9f9bccca3d50742bd3fb4e_2_690x345.jpeg, https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/b832954d962c9f148f9f9bccca3d50742bd3fb4e_2_1035x517.jpeg 1.5x, https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/b832954d962c9f148f9f9bccca3d50742bd3fb4e.jpeg 2x\" data-dominant-color=\"804357\" alt=\"image\" \/><\/div>\n<h3><a href=\"https:\/\/www.wsj.com\/articles\/gut-bacteria-linked-to-depression-11670342342\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow ugc\">Gut Bacteria Are Linked to Depression<\/a><\/h3>\n<p>Bugs in the digestive system may play a role in depression, according to two new studies.<\/p>\n<\/article>\n<\/aside><\/div>\n<div class=\"post\" itemprop=\"articleBody\">\n<p>The guys at my TRT clinic allege that Peas absorb the pesticides they\u2019re grown in and hence Pea Protein should be avoided. Can you offer up a perspective on that?<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<div class=\"post\" itemprop=\"articleBody\">\n<p>Spot on. So many products I\u2019ve been interested in or got excited about but once I read the ingredients and see sucralose or some dye (RED 40) or whatever, kinda defeats the purpose. I was looking at Muscle Milk Pro Series Protein Powder just for the sheer amount of protein per serving, but it also has sucralose.<\/p>\n<p>Also, the whole thing about soy being evil is interesting, I think millions of people have been eating soy for a while and they\u2019re not all growing boobs.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve been using Vega Sport Premium Protein Powder and have used Huel in the past but the Vega tastes good, very mixable with water,and 30g of protein per serving, price point is decent\u2026I think stevia for sweetener maybe.<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<div class=\"post\" itemprop=\"articleBody\">\n<p>This 66-year-old, bodybuilding for over fifty years since 1971, who\u2019s been around long enough to see the legally-factual-yet-efficacy-dishonest marketing hype of the glut of products claiming to be \u201cthe-newest-best-supplement-for-incredible-gains!\u201d grades you \u201c100%\u201d on this article too, TC.<\/p>\n<p>For the past twenty years, my advice to young guys I notice shopping for protein supplements has been, \u201cGo with whey, preferably isolate due to its easier digestibility; and know that more-expensive does not at all mean superior quality in the long-term of muscle growth; and, keep in mind that most average-sized, average-gened drug-free beginners can usually get all the protein needed daily from food anyway &#8211; &#8211; even whey protein supplements are a convenience and an option but not a necessity for optimal gains.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<div class=\"post\" itemprop=\"articleBody\">\n<p>A lot of dose dependent activity that most don\u2019t need to concern themselves with unless you have some propensity to migraines, etc.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/examine.com\/articles\/artificial-sweeteners-is-the-evidence-as-sweet-as-these-substitutes\/\" class=\"onebox\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow ugc\">https:\/\/examine.com\/articles\/artificial-sweeteners-is-the-evidence-as-sweet-as-these-substitutes\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p>As Alan Aragon says in the weight loss context: \u201cArtificial sweetener scaremongering is a first-world farce. Your messy-ass room is going to kill you before artificial sweeteners do.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<div class=\"post\" itemprop=\"articleBody\">\n<aside class=\"quote no-group\" data-username=\"antiquity\" data-post=\"2\" data-topic=\"280409\">\n<div class=\"title\">\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" width=\"20\" height=\"20\" src=\"https:\/\/sea2.discourse-cdn.com\/tnation\/user_avatar\/forums.t-nation.com\/antiquity\/40\/209079_2.png\" class=\"avatar\" \/> antiquity:<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<p>There is more and more emerging evidence that artificial sweeteners like aspartame and sucralose alter gut microbiome in even small amounts.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/aside>\n<p>I hear you, but sugar alters the gut biome, too. So does fructose. Stevia negatively affects the way bacteria in the gut communicate. Processed foods. Even meat. Just about everything effects the gut biome in some potentially negative way, unless perhaps it\u2019s a prebiotic food. You have to pick your gut battles and see if the good in what you\u2019re eating outweighs the potential bad, which is often negligible.<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<div class=\"post\" itemprop=\"articleBody\">\n<aside class=\"quote no-group\" data-username=\"nfstern\" data-post=\"3\" data-topic=\"280409\">\n<div class=\"title\">\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" width=\"20\" height=\"20\" src=\"https:\/\/sea2.discourse-cdn.com\/tnation\/user_avatar\/forums.t-nation.com\/nfstern\/40\/294909_2.png\" class=\"avatar\" \/> nfstern:<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<p>The guys at my TRT clinic allege that Peas absorb the pesticides they\u2019re grown in and hence Pea Protein should be avoided.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/aside>\n<p>Off the cuff, I was going to suggest an organic brand, but upon doing a little digging, it looks like even some of the organic brands tested positive for high levels of glyphosphate. However, there appear to be some brands that test for it and now sport a \u201cglyphosphate free\u201d label. You might look at those brands, if indeed we can trust their assertion.<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<div class=\"post\" itemprop=\"articleBody\">\n<aside class=\"quote no-group\" data-username=\"tomatokilla\" data-post=\"4\" data-topic=\"280409\">\n<div class=\"title\">\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" width=\"20\" height=\"20\" src=\"https:\/\/avatars.discourse-cdn.com\/v4\/letter\/t\/ba8739\/40.png\" class=\"avatar\" \/> tomatokilla:<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<p>I think stevia for sweetener maybe.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/aside>\n<p>Stevia also affects the way bacteria in the gut communicate with each other.<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<div class=\"post\" itemprop=\"articleBody\">\n<aside class=\"quote group-Verified\" data-username=\"TC_Luoma\" data-post=\"7\" data-topic=\"280409\">\n<div class=\"title\">\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" width=\"20\" height=\"20\" src=\"https:\/\/sea2.discourse-cdn.com\/tnation\/user_avatar\/forums.t-nation.com\/tc_luoma\/40\/308079_2.png\" class=\"avatar\" \/> TC_Luoma:<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<p>You have to pick your gut battles and see if the good in what you\u2019re eating outweighs the potential bad,<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/aside>\n<p>Agreed!  I certainly understand I am an outlier on this site, as I avoid artificial colors, flavors, and ultra-processed foods.  I also refuse to train through headaches, near-vomit, or injury.  For me, training and nutrition around training is one of the battles I choose to fight, though.  Luckily there are plenty of options that fit my preference, but of course I\u2019d be happier to support a Biotest product if it were an option.<\/p>\n<aside class=\"quote group-Verified\" data-username=\"TC_Luoma\" data-post=\"9\" data-topic=\"280409\">\n<div class=\"title\">\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" width=\"20\" height=\"20\" src=\"https:\/\/sea2.discourse-cdn.com\/tnation\/user_avatar\/forums.t-nation.com\/tc_luoma\/40\/308079_2.png\" class=\"avatar\" \/> TC_Luoma:<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Stevia also affects the way bacteria<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/aside>\n<p>You\u2019re right on this.  I have never been a big fan of the taste but would often have products with stevia by default, but I now avoid this as well.  Give me some honey as the sweetener or none at all.<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<div class=\"post\" itemprop=\"articleBody\">\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/emoji.discourse-cdn.com\/apple\/sweat.png?v=12\" title=\":sweat:\" class=\"emoji only-emoji\" alt=\":sweat:\" width=\"20\" height=\"20\" \/> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/emoji.discourse-cdn.com\/apple\/smiling_face_with_tear.png?v=12\" title=\":smiling_face_with_tear:\" class=\"emoji only-emoji\" alt=\":smiling_face_with_tear:\" width=\"20\" height=\"20\" \/> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/emoji.discourse-cdn.com\/apple\/sleepy.png?v=12\" title=\":sleepy:\" class=\"emoji only-emoji\" alt=\":sleepy:\" width=\"20\" height=\"20\" \/><\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<div class=\"post\" itemprop=\"articleBody\">\n<p>(post deleted by author)<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<div class=\"post\" itemprop=\"articleBody\">\n<p>Thank you for that reply, I think I\u2019ll just stick to whey and milk formulations.<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<div class=\"post\" itemprop=\"articleBody\">\n<p>TC, what are your thoughts on whey protein interfering with the absorption of polyphenols?<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<div class=\"post\" itemprop=\"articleBody\">\n<p>How many T-Nation articles will repeat the myth about phytoestrogens and soy? The Weston A Price Foundation\u2019s lies did a great job spreading that unsubstantiated lie, but it\u2019s still a lie.<\/p>\n<aside class=\"onebox allowlistedgeneric\" data-onebox-src=\"https:\/\/lindseyelmore.com\/debunking-the-myths-about-phytoestrogens\/\">\n<header class=\"source\">\n      <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/global.discourse-cdn.com\/tnation\/original\/4X\/e\/c\/f\/ecf7afe8493cd253c368ace2030666eae7e134c8.png\" class=\"site-icon\" width=\"100\" height=\"100\" alt=\"image\" \/><\/p>\n<p>      <a href=\"https:\/\/lindseyelmore.com\/debunking-the-myths-about-phytoestrogens\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow ugc\" title=\"08:48PM - 13 January 2020\">Lindsey Elmore \u2013 13 Jan 20<\/a><br \/>\n  <\/header>\n<article class=\"onebox-body\">\n<div class=\"aspect-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/60aaf5c8666957de9038e7f7a566bbd299e8c536_2_690x253.jpeg\" class=\"thumbnail\" width=\"690\" height=\"253\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/60aaf5c8666957de9038e7f7a566bbd299e8c536_2_690x253.jpeg, https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/60aaf5c8666957de9038e7f7a566bbd299e8c536.jpeg 1.5x, https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/60aaf5c8666957de9038e7f7a566bbd299e8c536.jpeg 2x\" data-dominant-color=\"BA8C69\" alt=\"image\" \/><\/div>\n<h3><a href=\"https:\/\/lindseyelmore.com\/debunking-the-myths-about-phytoestrogens\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow ugc\">Debunking the Myths About Phytoestrogens<\/a><\/h3>\n<p>Soy is the subject of much misinformation on the internet. Let&#8217;s evaluate some common myths about phytoestrogens and see how they stand up to science.<\/p>\n<p>\n    <span class=\"label1\">Est. reading time: 5 minutes<\/span>\n  <\/p>\n<\/article>\n<\/aside>\n<p>If you are a macho plant, phytoestrogens will affect you. If you\u2019re a human, they will not.<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<div class=\"post\" itemprop=\"articleBody\">\n<aside class=\"quote no-group\" data-username=\"heath_watts\" data-post=\"15\" data-topic=\"280409\">\n<div class=\"title\">\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" width=\"20\" height=\"20\" src=\"https:\/\/sea2.discourse-cdn.com\/tnation\/user_avatar\/forums.t-nation.com\/heath_watts\/40\/234513_2.png\" class=\"avatar\" \/> heath_watts:<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<p>If you are a macho plant, phytoestrogens will affect you. If you\u2019re a human, they will not.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/aside>\n<p>She may be right. You may be right. Time will tell. However, polyphenols are kinda my thing. They have powerful effects, even in minute doses. Just for the hell of it, go to Google Scholar and type in \u201cPhytoestrogens effects on males\u201d and see what comes up.<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<div class=\"post\" itemprop=\"articleBody\">\n<aside class=\"quote no-group\" data-username=\"jronor\" data-post=\"14\" data-topic=\"280409\" data-full=\"true\">\n<div class=\"title\">\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" width=\"20\" height=\"20\" src=\"https:\/\/avatars.discourse-cdn.com\/v4\/letter\/j\/a183cd\/40.png\" class=\"avatar\" \/> jronor:<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<p>TC, what are your thoughts on whey protein interfering with the absorption of polyphenols?<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/aside>\n<p>In some cases they do, in others they don\u2019t. I just read a study on how combining whey with curcumin positively modulates skeletal muscle inflammation and oxidative damage after exercise, leading to bigger muscle fibers. Unfortunately, we don\u2019t know much about the interactions between various foods and other polyphenols\u2026yet.<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<div class=\"post\" itemprop=\"articleBody\">\n<p>Do people actually still get \u201cpea\u201d or \u201csoy\u201d protein? If there\u2019s allergies, sure\u2026 but pretty much every companies goto vegan protein these days seems to be blends that make the \u201cnot as good as whey\u201d rhetoric pretty null.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m a massive outlier though. Whey isolate definitely upsets me, but i\u2019m fine with lactose-free milk. I can\u2019t imagine there are many guys out there mixing their vegan protein powder in milk, heh. Pair that with the fact I still eat meat\u2026 i\u2019m not concerned i\u2019m missing out on anything at all considering only around 10-20% of my protein is from the powder.<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<div class=\"post\" itemprop=\"articleBody\">\n<aside class=\"quote no-group\" data-username=\"cdep89\" data-post=\"18\" data-topic=\"280409\">\n<div class=\"title\">\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" width=\"20\" height=\"20\" src=\"https:\/\/sea2.discourse-cdn.com\/tnation\/user_avatar\/forums.t-nation.com\/cdep89\/40\/459601_2.png\" class=\"avatar\" \/> cdep89:<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Do people actually still get \u201cpea\u201d or \u201csoy\u201d protein?<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/aside>\n<p>Yeah, I bought a tub of pea protein a couple of months ago just to see what it\u2019s like. It\u2019s still there, minus two scoops. Not very tasty and mixes poorly.<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<div class=\"post\" itemprop=\"articleBody\">\n<p>It\u2019s not about opinion, it\u2019s about science. There is little to no scientific evidence that phytoestrogens affect humans. I\u2019m a practicing scientist (PhD geochemistry, MS geochemistry, BS biology and chemistry), so I can read and evaluate science quite well. Googling information isn\u2019t the best way to get information, because the most popular articles appear first. There is a lot of misinformation about soy out there. Incidentally, coffee is full of polyphenols.<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>How to Evaluate Your Protein Supplement What\u2019s the best protein powder? With all the different protein scoring systems out there, here\u2019s how to know which is<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":1778567,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_mo_disable_npp":"","fifu_image_url":"https:\/\/cndimages.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com\/breaking-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/IMG_2758-scaled-1.jpg","fifu_image_alt":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[547],"tags":[5458,9886,7515,3819,6540],"class_list":["post-1778564","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-the-bongino-report","tag-bongino","tag-powder","tag-protein","tag-report","tag-you"],"fifu_image_url":"https:\/\/cndimages.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com\/breaking-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/IMG_2758-scaled-1.jpg","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1778564","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1778564"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1778564\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1778567"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1778564"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1778564"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.conservativenewsdaily.net\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1778564"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}