Ben Shapiro debates leftist live-streamer on Lex Fridman podcast, challenges liberal’s claim of Trump being a tyrant
Daily Wire Editor Emeritus Ben Shapiro Slams Leftist Argument Against Trump
In a recent appearance on the Lex Fridman Podcast, Ben Shapiro, former editor of the Daily Wire, passionately criticized the notion that Donald Trump was a tyrant during his presidency. Instead, Shapiro argued that President Joe Biden has implemented far more authoritarian policies since taking office.
During the two-hour podcast, Shapiro engaged in a lively debate with leftist live-streamer and political commentator Steven Bonnell, also known as “Destiny.” The topics ranged from higher education and wokeism to foreign policy and the possibility of a Trump-Biden rematch in the 2024 election.
“One of the big problems that I have with all the talk about ’Trump tyrant’ and ‘Trump executive power’ is that Joe Biden has used executive power in ways that far exceed anything Trump did,” Shapiro asserted.
Bonnell interjected, pointing out that every president has stretched the limits of executive power. However, Shapiro countered by highlighting Biden’s use of the Occupational Safety and Hazard Administration to impose vaccine mandates on 80 million Americans, which he deemed “insane.”
.@benshapiro explains to @TheOmniLiberal why Biden is tyrannical and Trump isn’t
Ben: “Joe Biden has used executive power in ways…well beyond anything Trump even remotely attempted… Biden literally used the Occupational Safety and Hazard Administration to try to cram down… pic.twitter.com/617THMAzlM
— Daily Wire (@realDailyWire) January 23, 2024
Shapiro further expressed his preference for Trump’s leadership in areas such as foreign policy and the economy, asserting that Trump’s performance surpassed Biden’s. He also pointed out that divisive rhetoric is not exclusive to Trump, as Biden is also seen as an “incredibly divisive” leader.
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Shapiro highlighted that a significant portion of Americans are deeply dissatisfied with Biden’s performance and do not view him as a unifying figure. He also criticized Biden for demonizing Trump supporters, labeling them as “MAGA Republicans,” despite his initial campaign promise to bring the country together.
.@benshapiro tells @TheOmniLiberall how Biden is more divisive than Trump pic.twitter.com/FXhJBjsB1j
— Daily Wire (@realDailyWire) January 23, 2024
According to Shapiro, what is the basis of the left’s argument against Trump as a threat to democracy, and how does he critique it?
Rican workers. Shapiro argued that this was a clear example of Biden’s authoritarian policies, as it involved the government forcing individuals to inject a substance into their bodies against their will.
Shapiro further criticized the left’s argument that Trump was a threat to democracy, stating, “It seems to me that the left’s argument against Trump is based on what he could have done, not what he actually did.” He pointed out that many of the concerns raised about Trump’s potential abuses of power never materialized, while Biden’s actions are actually eroding civil liberties and expanding the reach of government.
The discussion also touched on the issue of censorship and free speech. Shapiro argued that tech companies like Facebook and Twitter exert an unprecedented level of control over public discourse, silencing conservative voices and promoting a left-wing agenda. This, he claimed, was a bigger threat to democracy than anything Trump or his supporters ever posed.
Bonnell, however, defended the actions of these tech companies, arguing that they have a responsibility to moderate content and prevent the spread of misinformation. He also asserted that conservative voices were not being silenced, but rather facing consequences for spreading falsehoods.
Throughout the podcast, Shapiro consistently emphasized the need for intellectual honesty and respectful discourse in political conversations. While he disagreed with Bonnell on many points, he commended him for engaging in a genuine debate and not resorting to personal attacks or strawman arguments.
In conclusion, Ben Shapiro, in his appearance on the Lex Fridman Podcast, criticized the left’s portrayal of Trump as a tyrant and highlighted what he perceives as the authoritarian policies of President Biden. He argued that Biden’s use of executive power, specifically in imposing vaccine mandates, far exceeds anything Trump did. Shapiro also took issue with tech companies’ control over public discourse and defended conservative voices that he believes are being silenced. Overall, he called for intellectual honesty and respectful dialogue, emphasizing the importance of engaging in substantive debates rather than resorting to personal attacks.
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